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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
   posted by _Steve_ on 11-Jun-2006 0:27:47 (5227 reads)
Following the recently cancelled hardware demonstration by ACK, a brief IRC session was held in it's place.

An unformatted log of the chat has already been posted by wegster in the forums, however, thanks to pixie, we now have a nicely formatted transcript of the entire session.

Please post your comments in the thread on the forum.
    

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wolfe 
Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
Posted on 11-Jun-2006 6:52:26
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Already old news . .

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salteadorneo 
Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
Posted on 11-Jun-2006 9:55:36
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And the A4000-A3000 version?
There is some news?

A greeting.

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ikir 
Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
Posted on 11-Jun-2006 10:53:15
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Stunning news in this IRC log

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Posted on 11-Jun-2006 12:26:27
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Intersting, i'll look forward to 'tuesday'

wizz.

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Posted on 11-Jun-2006 16:00:33
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Great session transcript.

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Posted on 11-Jun-2006 17:48:46
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rofl

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Legion 
Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
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PV LT with the mobility chip will be around $375.00 USD before taxes.


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Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
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@Wizzard_o
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Intersting, i'll look forward to 'tuesday'

As the rest of us are!

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Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
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@Legion

If $375 + tax + p&p will get me something I can plug into my A1200 and have a full OS4 capable system, then I think the hardware crisis is over.

Hmmm, I just had a thought - will this only work on towerized A1200s (for the CD drive), or will OS4 come on floppies? If it requires a towerized A1200, that's a pretty big extra expense.

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@Codesmith

Does that include OS4 that will be bundled with the board ?

Last edited by JurassicC on 12-Jun-2006 at 06:32 AM.

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hatschi 
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If $375 + tax + p&p will get me something I can plug into my A1200 and have a full OS4 capable system, then I think the hardware crisis is over.


It's just a pity that although the Powervixxen was announced *first*, it is probably the last hardware that will get released, since the order is "CPUs > PV TL > PV LT > PV LT Carrier board" as Adam told us.
At $375 it makes most sense of the three (although the impossibility to deactivate it is a major showstopper) and will possibly generate the highest sales. An overpriced CPU module or "high-end" board at $1200 won't drastically widen the userbase, only cheap entry-level hardware will do.

Last edited by hatschi on 12-Jun-2006 at 07:06 AM.

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I find this interesting…
It will be hopefully fun to see what I have worked on Tuesday…
I think ACK has more to show then Troika…
I hope the CPU transferee rate issues are located on the CPU module not on the motherboard…

One question is OpenBIOS and OpenFirmware the same?

I think Uboot is nice, and I understand the need to support different BIOS types (OpenBIOS/OpenFrimware) to obtain a bigger market.

Personally I think the work Troika showed in my option more and more that they are not professional, it seams that they have not designed there own hardware or it’s left on planning stage too long… even I can design a web page, make some Dpaint paintings, select a few chips, and make big announcements, start completion for case designs, I’m hopeful that ACK do not go down the same route, I hope ACK is producing some thing, and do not waste time on vapor in belief that some thing is going to produce it self, And I think the Troika design is too complicated if they where to design it from ground up.

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Does that include OS4 that will be bundled with the board ?


Yes, and you would know this when you would have taken the time to read the script.

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Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
Posted on 12-Jun-2006 7:08:16
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@CodeSmith

OS4pre4 was 36MB and the final version will probably be bigger. There's just no way anyone would even consider putting it on floppies. Even OS3.5 and 3.9 requires a CD-drive. You don't need tower to fit a CD-drive, but a 4-way IDE splitter might be usefull.

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CodeSmith 
Re: ACK Amigaworld.net IRC transcripts (10/06/06)
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I know that most of us who are left are pretty comfortable taking our amigas apart, but having to hack together an external IDE CDROM (complete with a bare ATX power supply with a paper clip to simulate the power button) in order to install the OS isn't my idea of how to best grow the market. Too bad no-one's thought of a clean way to have an external CD-ROM drive for A1200s (wasn't there some sort of snap-on CD-ROM for the A500?)

I wonder how expensive it would be to put the OS4 install CD into a read-only PCMCIA card... that would solve that problem, if it doesn't significantly raise the price.

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AmiDog 
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@CodeSmith

Well, there was a CD-ROM you could connect directly to the PCMCIA-port of the A1200, but it was rather expensive. Then there was the Squirrel SCSI-controller for the PCMCIA-port which can be used to connect an external SCSI CD-ROM. Then we have all the accelerators with SCSI...

Maybe OS4 could be copied to some memory card and then a PCMCIA memorycard reader could be used to install OS4.

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Stunning news in this IRC log


Yes, some "stunning" mudslinging from Troika in this IRC log.
What is their motivation to openly try to muddy the waters and bringing up cr*p about their competitor?

Only because Troika are even more of a failure so far with exactly _nothing_ to show to us except for some fuzzy photos of some RAM modules?

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I did but the transcript is incorrectly formatted now i have read it again as on first glance the answer comes from the person who asked the question.

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JurassicC 
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@Polka

Well A1200 confirms that ACK has some Troika AMY boards, so we know Adam either did or is working on AMY.

A1200 pokes what could be a snide question about the projects finances considering Godfree's is listed as a troika partner.

Edit - typo-

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A1200 pokes what could be a snide question about the projects finances considering Godfree's is listed as a troika partner.


A a do-it-yourself/kitsch-store as an investor of Troika?

Hilarious! The two key investments of the future: Porcelain kittens and Amy mainboards!

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