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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 15:34:24
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 17:30:47
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| when will 060 and ppc be supported?... this emulation have been sitting duck on 040 for ages now...
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 17:34:57
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 17:54:59
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 18:01:31
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| when will 060 and ppc be supported?... this emulation have been sitting duck on 040 for ages now... |
The 060 is supported for ages, the PPC will never be supported.
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 18:37:41
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| The 060 is supported for ages, the PPC will never be supported. |
Never was the word used some years ago about emulating Amiga on PC's
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 19:12:23
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
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| It would probably take support from the MorphOS Team to get PPC emulation in UAE and I doubt they are interested in doing this.. 
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 20:35:21
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 20:56:50
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 21:43:18
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In the opinion of Toni Willen, PPC processors have nothing to do with Amigas, that is why he has no interest in including PPC support in WinUAE. |
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 2-Feb-2008 22:43:57
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 0:36:34
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 0:48:39
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| when will 060 and ppc be supported?... this emulation have been sitting duck on 040 for ages now... |
The 060 is supported for ages, the PPC will never be supported. |
While the option for the 060 has been included in the past few main releases, it is still recommended the 020 option is used as it offers the most complete and compatible core (aside from the 68000 option), and selecting the 060 option does not in any way mean the 68k emulation runs faster or better.
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The PPC issue has been raised many times, and it plain and simply is not worth the time or effort, not to mention that the current maintainer (Toni) is not going to ever include it. The benefit of having a PPC emulation in WinUAE (or its variants) for just a few applications and/or games is not worth their time when more important issues of making the emulation more accurate and compatible are still required.
At the end of the day it is about emulating the classic Amiga hardware accurately, and not the third party add ons it may have had thrust upon it.
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 1:49:52
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| it is about emulating the classic Amiga hardware accurately, and not the third party add ons it may have had thrust upon it. |
Oh yeah? Then why does this version have support for 1GB RTG memory? |
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 13:45:08
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| I would gladly try to add the code for PPC emulation into WinUAE, and I'm sure lots of you would join such a project, but I have no idea how a BlizzardPPC works and how it would be plugged into WinUAE's code.
Has someone an idea about how it could be done?
EDIT- BTW, there's something I'm thinking about since a long time : implementing a modular plugin system into WinUAE which would allow programmers to write hardware extensions emulation that you would then be able to load into WinUAE.
For exemple, you would design a Cybervision643D plugin that the user would then be able to add into WinUAE's A4000 emulation.
This sytem would be much more flexible and open a new field in emulating the Amiga : emulating all the extensions. For exemple, you could also code a plugin that emulates the PC emulator card that you could plug into the A500, or even the simple 512k extension board, etc... Last edited by JuLieN on 03-Feb-2008 at 01:50 PM.
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 16:33:22
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| >The benefit of having a PPC emulation in WinUAE (or its variants) for just a few >applications and/or games is not worth their time when more
right, i think it is thousand times faster to release the OS4 software for 68k or MOS and add the new api features in a opensource library.
currently there are on Jörg Strohmeyers page >4 gb file access funcs and from Ilka allocsysobject source from os4emu from MOS
other OS4 features, i dont know that soft really need OS4.
and also must look in future, when begin such a long time project, then must look not that AROS AFA have in 4 years more features than OS4 MOS and all soft is port to that systems, because MOS OS4 have no real hardware and the hardware die time by time Last edited by bernd_afa on 03-Feb-2008 at 04:34 PM.
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 17:17:51
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Ohh please wake up, just becoarse you have taken some AROS code to improve OS3.x don't not mean that you have more features than either MOS or OS4.
When you make such stupid claims I do loose respect for you.
If you look at AllocSysObject() it should not take more that 10minutes to do that on OS3.x onless you also want to make resource tracking at the same time.
Why don't you make some importent improvement like making new DOS api's to support 64bits files, or maybe just do some hw drivers... tweaking code to run on Classic is okay but to be honest its not that hard if you can code.
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
Posted on 3-Feb-2008 18:33:36
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Oh yeah? Then why does this version have support for 1GB RTG memory? |
You may want to actually check again then, since 1.4.6 does not support 1GB of RTG memory. It does allow you to select up to 1GB of Z3 ram to add on, but that is limited by the actual physical amount of memory available in your PC.
The amount of memory available to the emulated machine has nothing to do with the accuracy of said emulation. Just because nobody actually made a 1GB ram expansioin for the Amiga, or added a 512MB RTG card to it is irrelevant to the emulation of the Amiga hardware, which does allow for both extra ram to be added, and autoconfigured, as well as RTG cards to be plugged in and used (CGX and Picasso96 software exists for that very purpose).
And to be honest, you are just nitpicking now and apparently just appearing to be obstinate for the sheer hell of it.
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Re: WinUAE 1.4.6 released
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