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Software News   Software News : AmigaOS News from AmiWest
   posted by ssolie on 3-Nov-2010 4:36:07 (6116 reads)
This report is a summary of what was conveyed to the public at the AmiWest 2010 show. This information is direct from Hyperion Entertainment and its partners.

AmigaOS 4.1 for classic Amiga systems with PPC accelerators has been announced. This includes AmigaOS 4.1 Update 2 plus support for Radeon graphics cards via an x86 emulator to initialize them. There is also direct support for ZorRAM and you will be able to use multiple ZorRAM boards up to the theoretical limit.


This is not some stripped down version of AmigaOS. You can expect all the advanced features like virtual memory, memory swapping and hardware accelerated graphics to be there. The target for product availability is before the end of 2010. AmigaOS 4.1 for classic systems will be distributed exclusively by AmigaKit. Pricing details are not yet available.

AmigaOS 4.1 is already running on the brand new Sam460ex platform from ACube Systems. The Sam460ex was demonstrated at AmiWest at the Amiga Users of Calgary table. Some software driver issues do remain but the product is near completion. Benchmarks are not yet available but attendees were invited to try it for themselves. For the latest information about the Sam460ex platform please contact ACube directly.

The flagship AmigaOS platform is the AmigaOne X1000 and it was present in the latest generation case from A-EON Technology. The case was not branded but it does represent the latest version of the case. Thomas and Hans-Joerg Frieden had installed a myriad of software for show goers to try including Exult, UAE, Freespace, Jagged Alliance 2, BOH, Quake 2, Amiga Writer, Timberwolf, OWB, DvPlayer, MPlayer, AMC, various Hollywood demos and of course REBOL 3.

The AmigaOS itself was discussed in some detail at the show and many anticipated features were discussed and/or announced including:

* USB 2 support

* Support for more than 2 GB of RAM

* Multiple core support (SMP)

* New Exec scheduler
- Selectable policy for scheduling (may include per task)
- Scheduling of task groups with internal scheduling of tasks within that group
- Scheduling of tasks across multiple CPU cores (may include core affinity)
- Support for real-time scheduling

* Graphics and Gallium3D
- Enables access to full OpenGL implementations like Mesa
- Compositing may be done via Gallium3D
- Opens the door to replacing the entire graphics subsystem
- multi-header support

Please note all specifications are subject to change without notice.
    

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DAX 
Re: AmigaOS News from AmiWest
Posted on 3-Nov-2010 8:50:06
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An AmigaOS with support for multiple cores, more than 2GB of ram, Full OpenGL on hi-end PCI-E graphics cards...great to hear they are working in the right direction! .

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So there will be SMP from the start! COOL!

I wonder how many programs rely on hard task priorities for synchronization and that will need a special sheduler set for them...

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@Deniil

CodeAudio could be the first. Encoding so fast you wonder... did i press the "encode" button ?

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Really positive news.

Can't wait to get my hands on AmigaOS 4.1 and above

Steve

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Re: AmigaOS News from AmiWest
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@Deniil715 Quote:
So there will be SMP from the start! COOL!

How do you work that out? He said:

Quote:
many anticipated features were discussed

Last edited by ChrisH on 03-Nov-2010 at 11:30 AM.

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Re: AmigaOS News from AmiWest
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@DAX

indeed..
a bit short repport, but lots of nice features planned.
i just can't wait to see them becoming a reality.
nice indeed to see amigaos getting back on track :)
we're talking about really great features here ..

keep up the good work hyperion! (and all other involved)

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Re: AmigaOS News from AmiWest
Posted on 3-Nov-2010 12:01:45
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AOS to get Real Time Scheduling? @.@

Thats Ludicrous. 8)

My God, theyve gone to Plaid.

Windows Ghz= ms.
Linux Ghz = us.
AOS Ghz = ns.
XMOS Ghz >= ps.

The AXK has the capability to be the fastest response general purpose desktop computer ever created. Maybe even approaching specialised, dedicated hardware?

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"many anticipated features "

But when will they be available? (roughly?) 2011? 2012?

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* Multiple core support (SMP)
* New Exec scheduler
* Graphics and Gallium3D
* USB 2 support
* Support for more than 2 GB of RAM

This sound very promising!

Last edited by marko on 03-Nov-2010 at 02:03 PM.

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Re: AmigaOS News from AmiWest
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Finally some good news! Anyway i fear all these things will take time.

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Nice report, thank you very much!

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Re: AmigaOS News from AmiWest
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@RodTerl
The current scheduler is a simple round-robin scheduler and it has served us fairly well over the last 25 years. We won't be losing the round-robin scheduler but instead adding the possibility for additional schedulers. The introduction of multi-core support makes this the perfect time to invest in the scheduler.

I remember having great fun with the schedulers the were provided by the old Executive package by Petri Nordlund. This will be a similar enhancement but of course done at the Exec level instead of as a 3rd party hack as Petri was forced to do.

It has been too long now but I think I only had good luck with one of the schedulers Executive provided on my A3000/060 box. The other schedulers did little or nothing to improve the overall user experience. It will be really interesting to see how a modern AmigaOS box will behave with different schedulers.

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@KimmoK
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But when will they be available? (roughly?) 2011? 2012?

That information is not yet available. Think of it more as a technical road map for the time being.

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Good news!!

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Support for real-time scheduling

That's super interesting ! All the rest is interesting too, of course !

@AmigaOS devs
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USB 2 support

Is isochronous mode (?) implemented as well ?

@ssolie


(edit, edit2)

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now it's getting interesting discution :)
i'd make that a sticky news item,
so everyone get a chance to notice and read it..

Last edited by freeaks on 03-Nov-2010 at 06:10 PM.

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@ssolie
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but instead adding the possibility for additional schedulers

By this you mean that the round-robin scheduler and others could be available at the same time and the user can select/configure which to use?

If that is the case, may I suggest a prefs panel for that? Not just where you can select and configure which one to use but also maybe with a tab (for us not so experienced with schedulers) with preconfigured settings, with the best scheduler and best values for a specific situation. Like for example, using OS4.x in a developer environment (background compilation while still able to web browsing or editing files o images comfortably) or for office/home use or for web/file/printer server. Does it make sense?

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@emeck
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Does it make sense?

I think testing will reveal what will make the most sense. Until actual test data is available we can't really make any informed decisions on what will be best. However, given this is AmigaOS, you can bet there will be more knobs and buttons to play with.

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@Tomppeli
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Is isochronous mode (?) implemented as well ?

There is some support already but it is not ready for public consumption.

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how about to run classic os4.1 on ppc and debian on 68k all at the same time, or other way around? could that be seen as multiprocessor support on amiga?;=)

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