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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : Amiglyph for AmigaOS4 released!
   posted by mrdarek on 18-Jan-2014 11:06:32 (3277 reads)
I released free utility capable creating 3D red-cyan anaglyph
from single picture. This is native code created in PortablE.
Program uses Dubois algorithm for best results.
Here is menu screenshoot and example anaglyph created by program:

Click "Read More" ----------> for more information





Here is download link:
OS4depot

Have fun with my software. If you use program frequently - consider
donation for me.

Additional credits: Thanks Chris Handley for technical support and
Tommy Sammy for AmigaOS4 icons.
    

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mbrantley 
Re: Amiglyph for AmigaOS4 released!
Posted on 19-Jan-2014 3:28:45
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Very cool. Just did a quick one with a picture of my daughter, and it really pops with the red-blue glasses from one of her 3D DVD movies.

http://www.thevideojunkie.com/photos/Samantha3D.jpg

Didn't see a save function (maybe I overlooked?) so I just did a screen grab to save my picture.

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realize 
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Posted on 19-Jan-2014 4:34:32
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Pretty impressive. Thanks

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tonyw 
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Posted on 19-Jan-2014 4:47:35
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Looking at that picture, all I can see is a flat image either in front of or behind the screen (depending on which way I hold the glasses). There is no 3D effect. Is there supposed to be?

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mrdarek 
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Posted on 19-Jan-2014 5:54:16
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@mbrantley

Not save in this version. Temporary to save run program in window mode and use snapshot software - this work for me.
Wow - samantha is perfect - not see any ghosts colours sometimes produced by program and nice deep...

@tonyw - only red-left eye, cyan-right eye glasses work. If still not see deep - try move amiga mouse pointer moving over picture - it help see illusion. Also you can try moving head - you should see "moved deep".

Last edited by mrdarek on 19-Jan-2014 at 06:10 AM.
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tommysammy 
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Posted on 19-Jan-2014 7:31:08
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Nice tool

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Templario 
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Posted on 19-Jan-2014 10:19:17
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A very interesting program, I have test it.

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mrdarek 
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@ Templario
yes, good quality test between this program and PC programs (usually not free :P ) will be usefully for future development (I have not patience for it and not see differences even between simple and Dubois algorithms). I hope so you can now produce your 3D games using more amiga hardware.

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tonyw 
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@mrdarek:

Looking at the picture without glasses, all the red and blue lines have the same width, therefore there is no depth in the picture at all.

Wearing the glasses, I can see that the picture is flat. If you can see some depth in it, I fear you are deluding yourself.

Are you sure that your program reads both "left" and "right" images when creating the anaglyph? The lack of depth might be explained if there was a bug that made it read the same picture each time.

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Ami603 
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Posted on 19-Jan-2014 22:52:59
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@tonyw:

This program only creates a fake 3d effect from a single image, it's not reading images with left/right data if you know what i mean.

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mbrantley 
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Tony, as mention this program is "faking it" by converting 2D images into anaglyphs. That said, I am impressed with how convincing the 3D effect looks here with my glasses on the provided example and the one picture of my kid that I ran through the program. My glasses are the cheap cardboard ones with red and blue lenses that were included with a DVD kids' movie.

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tonyw 
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OK, sorry, I didn't read the intro properly. If it is "faking it", then perhaps it's no surprise that I can't see any effect at all.

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mrdarek 
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@tonyw

OK, 3D is fake. Only difference between image for left and right eye is shifted right image. Is enought for make illusion if applied special algorithm. Program not make any deep analyse.

Some advanced technics are tested by me but work very poor and slow. For example images can be squeezed and stretched on both edges making some like perspective effect, but this method not work for me.

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MickJT 
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In my opinion, fake 3D only has the potential to work well if there's some motion data, whether just metadata or several frames before and after, or some very complex algorithm that knows what things usually look like. Otherwise, it can only make an image appear in front or behind the screen (or curve it), which doesn't look anywhere near as good as something generated from a real left and right image.

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geit 
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Quote:
In my opinion, fake 3D only the potential to work well if there's some motion data, whether just metadata or several frames before and after, or some very complex algorithm that knows what things usually look like. Otherwise, it can only make an image appear in front or behind the screen (or curve it), which doesn't look anywhere near as good as something generated from a real left and right image.


Actually it is much more. I just watched "Jurassic Park" in 3D. As you all may know the move was done 20 years ago and in 2D. A team of more than 10 people worked over nine month to cut objects in any scene by hand and edited them, to reassemble the movie afterwards with additional depth.

The result is quite astonishing. My beamer has also a 2D to 3D algorithm build in. When turning that on, it sometimes works very well. As mentioned above best when there is movement in a scene, but compared to a hand converted movie it is bullshit.

Geit

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Templario 
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Posted on 22-Jan-2014 10:45:44
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@mrdarek
At least the graphic buttons with a simple picture! because I used a free Windows program and for this the result wasn't 100% perfect!

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mrdarek 
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Posted on 22-Jan-2014 14:07:38
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Interesting. You can send mi that buttons on email for analyse : original, converted by windows software and converted by my software. I try analyse where are differences.

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Templario 
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@mrdarek
Uff, the original buttons I haven't them, but you can send me or viceversa, a picture without 3D conversion and with conversion.

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BillE 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2014 21:05:31
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@tonyw


Quote:
Looking at that picture, all I can see is a flat image either in front of or behind the screen (depending on which way I hold the glasses). There is no 3D effect. Is there supposed to be?



I can't find my 3D glasses at the moment. But looking at the picture of the car it seems the red and green separation is the same throughout. That would give the impression of a flatish image moved in relation to the screen, rather than a leap out at you 3D car.

Without any real depth information it must be pretty difficult to assess the depth values to use from one flat image. Two images taken from different angles would give a much better effect.

For general information, if you download my programme 3D Stars the PDF manual gives a fairly detailed explanation of how red/green 3D works.

http://www.digitaluniverse.org.uk/3dstars/index.html


When I do find my 3D glasses, I'll download AmiGlyph as it sounds an interesting idea

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