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By the way, why isn't this on OS news yet ?

Oh please, we had enough bad publicity in the last few weeks...

On a second thought, there is a saying: "Bad publicity is better than no publicity at all."

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @fairlanefastback What I think is unbelievable that does this PR stunts while being in court battling Hyperion for the right to the OS4 source code, and he did the ACK amusement just before the court case, he really does bad job as PR manager; what he does is create public knowledge about Amiga Inc and AmigaOS exists, at most impropriate time, any interested in AmigaOS will find out how thing really are a few clicks/Google’s away from Amiga.com, it does not take scientist to know some thing is not right.

Yep. But who knows why exactly. Thats the problem. Its so over the top, so ridiculous that coming up with the exact nature of why Pentti and Bill and Fran and John G., and their PR firm are having (and/or allowing) the company do this defies just about all reason. Its something only the flies on the wall of the Washington office know besides the people directly involved.

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I wonder if there is anyone around here who still beleives in Bill Mcewen to be honest and truthful to our beloved Amiga Community?

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Darth_X wrote: I wonder if there is anyone around here who still beleives in Bill Mcewen to be honest and truthful to our beloved Amiga Community?

You filtering posts by Spacedruid, Slick, meet.mrnrg, Hondo, linnar, Derfs, etc or something? Bill definately has backers in the community. They each might have caveats (or not) to what you said here, but at least there is no doubt that Bill has community members still behind him.

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fairlanefastback wrote: @Darth_X Quote: Darth_X wrote: I wonder if there is anyone around here who still beleives in Bill Mcewen to be honest and truthful to our beloved Amiga Community? You filtering posts by Spacedruid, Slick, meet.mrnrg, Hondo, linnar, Derfs, etc or something? Bill definately has backers in the community. They each might have caveats (or not) to what you said here, but at least there is no doubt that Bill has community members still behind him.

I was kind of hoping one of them would see my post and make some kind of comment on how much they love Bill McEwen and think he is a great person.

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I really think it's sad that it has come to this. All other people seems Amiga as a joke now a days thanks to the current Amiga Inc. I mean come on, they are trying to sell crappy java(amigade?)games on their website and that's about it. And when OS4 finally was finished they did the most stupid thing they could ever do, sue the developers.

I really wish Amiga Inc goes bankcrupt again, it just can't get worse?

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Yep. But who knows why exactly. Thats the problem. Its so over the top, so ridiculous that coming up with the exact nature of why Pentti and Bill and Fran and John G., and their PR firm are having (and/or allowing) the company do this defies just about all reason. Its something only the flies on the wall of the Washington office know besides the people directly involved.

If I were paranoid, I would believe something that a co-worker of old told me once, back in 1991:

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The Amiga is so far ahead of its time that it must be stopped at all costs. Development of technology must go slowly so that companies can make increasing profits. That's why the Amiga has to be taken off the market, and why Windows will become industry standard.

To be honest, I always believed he was some sort of intelligence guy, or something.

Well, perhaps it's still the case that AmigaOS cannot be let back into market at this point. But I really see no reason why. After all, people nowadays seem to believe AmigaOS is far inferior to so-called "modern" operating-systems. So there shouldn't be any danger from it, right?

@wajdy

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We are putting the finishing touches on our public information release concerning the new OS and we are making some final technology decisions with regard to technical releases.

I wonder what is involved with preparing this current announcement? It probably sounds something like this:

You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, The Amiga Community Likes You.

Seriously though, all Amiga Inc has to do in order to get respect back from the community is deliver a product that people can actually buy. Announcements won’t do it.

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Carefull now. One of the things we have been asking for is more communication.
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cope wrote: @Beamish2040 Carefull now. One of the things we have been asking for is more communication. John Paul

That may be true but announcing that the final touches are being put on an announcement is not what most people had in mind.

Something more useful would be a weekly blog going over the progress of the OS5 project, what they feel they are achieving, problems that the project is encountering, screenshots, youtube videos of working alphas/betas. Just show us that something is really being worked on.

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So that's one h**ll of a corner they painted themselves into.

It's called the 'Kent Centre Manoeuvre'

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Beamish2040 wrote: @cope Quote: cope wrote: @Beamish2040 Carefull now. One of the things we have been asking for is more communication. John Paul That may be true but announcing that the final touches are being put on an announcement is not what most people had in mind. Something more useful would be a weekly blog going over the progress of the OS5 project, what they feel they are achieving, problems that the project is encountering, screenshots, youtube videos of working alphas/betas. Just show us that something is really being worked on.

The only problem there is the product would have to indeed be real. If its not thats not much of an option for them. If it is surely it would be good advice on how to proceed.

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I really wish Amiga Inc goes bankcrupt again, it just can't get worse?

I don't think this is going to happen so soon. Looks that they have enough money to sue others. Still, I hope Hyperion wins the lawsuit. It would be best if AmigaOS falls in their hands...


Edit: typo

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linnar wrote: Behind some good word produce Amiga community very mutch crap. Is'it so hard to understand the Amiga/Bill history an why it's go slowly? Very mutch company go down and disappear after the same time wth same problem. But Amiga Inc and Bill come back and go on stronger than ever. I don't understand the Amiga community, You love to hate Amiga Inc. Is'it a lifestyle?

Slowly is fine. Show us proof of the work done so far. People don't love to hate Amiga Inc. People just want proof something is really being worked on. With all the failed announcements and things like the coupon affair and Kent affair, the Amigas that never came this summer, it makes no sense to simply take Bill's word at face value.

What is it that shows you "Bill come back and go on stronger than ever"? lol Because he is saying he has an OS better than Apple OSX? Why not name at least one of these secret developers for it. Something tangible, anything at all tangible. Given history overall there is little to no reason to believe without some level of proof.

Why do you have such faith given all these issues up to the present day? Kent and the new Amigas not showing this summer are both this year. How could this possibly translate into them being at their strongest yet? And why are you so against people simply wanting proof after all the failed promises?

Most who are critical would be overjoyed if Amiga had proof to show. Thats having an open mind. Labeling those who are critical because you so desperately want not only yourself to believe with no proof, but others as well. Thats kind of sad really.

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He should rename himself Mr. Kimble(from Green Acres)

Then he could say of course we have an OS better than OS X.

Actually, we are nearly done with it.

Well not nearly, but almost,

Come to think of it, we have not started anything at all!

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I really wish Amiga Inc goes bankcrupt again, it just can't get worse?

I dunno, the Amiga name could be bought real cheap, and used for (say) Amiga Condoms... (I better stop there, or I'll give Bill some money making ideas.)

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he is saying stuff that mainstream tech news sites have picked up and laughed about and still he proceeds

It does show that the Amiga name can still grab headlines, and therefore has some value, although I'm really not sure how it could be used to attract investors given Bill's laughable PR.

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I dunno, the Amiga name could be bought real cheap, and used for (say) Amiga Condoms... (I better stop there, or I'll give Bill some money making ideas.)

Must... refrain.. from.. making... remark..

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ChrisH wrote: [quote] It does show that the Amiga name can still grab headlines, and therefore has some value, although I'm really not sure how it could be used to attract investors given Bill's laughable PR.

I think it was the fact that someone was claiming an OS "better than OS X" was mostly why, the Apple trademark being mentioned rather than who said it. The fact that it was Amiga perhaps adds more to accentuate how far down the tragic fall of Amiga really has gone. But I think the headlines were more that someone out of left field made a crazy claim in comparison to a well known product rather than it being about who did the claiming. If the RiscOS guys had made such a claim I think it would have been recieved similarly.

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I will wait for any announcement.
Then if it never appears on eBay have to think twice.

What would make OS 5 better than any other OS is what we should be asking?

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