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A-EON Project "CYRUS"
Posted on 7-Jul-2013 22:23:39
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwhMTGzi9m4

the next generation of Amiga's main specs are
"AmigaONE X2000" TBC
CPU: P5020 at 2Ghz dual core
RAM: DDR3
XORRO
Hopefully a Completely custom designed case in "classic amiga" stly
Cyrus board is being made to be compatible with P5040

X4000 "the dream machine"
CPU: P5040 at 2.4Ghz quad core

No due date...When its done!
sorry video cuts shorts my phone died. bloody battery, still nice show thanks to all involved in making it happen and keeping the amiga dream alive.

So basically the goal of "Cyrus" motherboard is to replace the nemo board with one that Is a lot more long term and future proof for Amiga users than the nemo was.

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Re: AmigaONE X2000 "CYRUS"
Posted on 7-Jul-2013 22:40:07
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@amigang

It's true?!

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Posted on 7-Jul-2013 22:44:59
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@amigang

Thanks for the vid, and taking the time to process & upload it.

Trevor's enthusiasm and passion for what he's doing is the best marketing tool A-Eon has imo. The blog is great, but (engineer's modesty aside) he really should put himself out there more in terms of video presentations and the like.

He also makes it clear that this will be the Nemo replacement - ie the top-line model, which wasn't clear from the initial reports. If it's comparable in performance, whilst being more affordable than the original X1000, that's a good step in the right direction imo.

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Re: AmigaONE X2000 "CYRUS"
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@Boot_WB

Freescale's G4 cores outperform the PA6T at lower clock speeds it lacks Altivec it should outperform the PA6T in most applications and may even be faster even when Altivec versions are present.

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just awesome ! Trevor/ A-Eon always did say that any further new hardware developments would solely rely on the sales of the X1000 so to all involved from beta-testers, developers, A-Eon, Amigakit, ACube, sponsors, and more importantly the end users who to this day still believe in their favourite OS



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@amigang

I'm no hardware guru by any stretch, do these specs indicate the new AmigaOne is faster or more powerful than the X1000, similar or less?

I'm happy in any event, knowing that there is new hardware still being developed, but don't really know what these specs indicate. Could anyone enlighten me please?



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Posted on 8-Jul-2013 0:35:53
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@Nagasakee

should be faster its higher clock speed.
PA6T is a 1.8 Ghz this one is 2Ghz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWRficient
http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=P5020

PA6T has DDR2, and no L3 Cache.
P5020: QorIQ P5020 has DDR3 and 1Mb L3 Cache.

P5020 has faster memory controller, it has more cache this should make the CPU faster per clock frequency.

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1256711

The 64-bit e5500 core can deliver 3.0 Dhrystone Mips per megahertz and there is two cores so its 6.0 DMIPS per MHZ.
6 * 2000 = 12000 DMIPS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

P.A. Semi PA6T-1682M scores 8.800 MIPS at 1.8Ghz.

P5020 should be 1.36 times faster (36% faster).

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Anymore AmigaONE X1000s going to be produced? Is there another run in the works??

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@Nagasakee

Further to what NutsAboutAmiga amiga said;

The P5020 has PCI-e V2 and the PA6T PCI-e 1 but I think P5020 has less lanes and I don't know how it's configured on the Cyrus.

8x PCI-e V2 = 16x PCIE V1.

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@Rob and @nutsaboutamiga

thanks guys, much appreciated explanations. So this is really good news then, a new "fastest" AmigaOne for OS4. I'm stoked!

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Posted on 8-Jul-2013 3:16:05
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Well good news that the high end platform (X) continues. However 2 thoughts

1. Still nobody does anything with this "XORO" slot?

2. They should bring back project Moana

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Cool! This is my favorite part from the Freescale web page specifications for the P5020 CPU:

This product is included in Freescale’s product longevity program, with assured supply for a minimum of 10 years after launch


Hope this does well!

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scabit wrote:
@amigang

Cool! This is my favorite part from the Freescale web page specifications for the P5020 CPU:

This product is included in Freescale’s product longevity program, with assured supply for a minimum of 10 years after launch


Hope this does well!

Scott


very true BUT it will never be as sexy as the PA6T

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It assures supply, but I'm not sure it assures supply at a sensible price

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Nice stuff, Trevor.
Now it's all just about when and how much

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Quote:

amigang wrote:

So basically the goal of "Cyrus" motherboard is to replace the nemo board with one that Is a lot more long term and future proof for Amiga users than the nemo was.


What that supposed to mean? That existing X1000 owners will have an 'absolete' system when that X2000 will be launched? That X1000 owners who spent over 3.000 euros will cry to 'death' for their purchase?

Do they consider an upgrade option? Will they sell it again as a complete system near the 2.500 - 3.000 euros tag or they consider to sell bare motherboards also?

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Posted on 8-Jul-2013 10:02:32
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*drools* in anticipation

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Unless Varisys is using Xorro/Xena for their embedded market, I really don't see a reason for including it on this MB, since it hasn't proven popular on X1000. And there seems to be no news of the announced PCI Xorro card for the rest of the range...

Apart from that, it seems like a nice successor to the X1000, minus the lack of Altivec.



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@Phantom

Quote:
What that supposed to mean? That existing X1000 owners will have an 'obsolete' system when that X2000 will be launched?


No, X2000 is more a replacement as there is still demand for the X1000 but its just too costly to keep making small productions runs, better to have a machine that can replace it and can be easily updated to even more powerful hardware in the future. there no need to go out and buy X2000 if you have a X1000 unless you always want the latest and greatest.

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That X1000 owners who spent over 3.000 euros will cry to 'death' for their purchase?


No. I bought one and don't regret it at all, Just because new hardware comes along does not mean that's the end of the X1000, thats just progress, you will be able to continue using it as long as you like, and it will be supported for a while, thanks to the fact of it having a dual core it will most likely out last most AmigaONE systems but this being the Amiga world lets not forget were still using computers from the 80's so I dont think the word obsolete should be used here.
Plus the fact that the board is only just come out of prototype stage so were a little way off it being here and I've had a year of use out of the x1000 so far already.

For me personally I'm happy with my X1000 at the moment, and I might not upgrade to X2000 because its only a small step up, (however if I have more spare cash and the more news we get towards its release sounds interesting then I'm not going to rule myself completely out) but then the possible X4000 down the line, thats a possibility.

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Of course it can't be 'absolete' (that's why I used quotes). X1000 has much more to offer with the upcoming AmigaOS 4.2 update, like probably dual-core support. I'm a happy X1000 owner too, as I use it as my main system daily, and I never regretted the money I spent for it. It would be nice though, to have the option for a CPU upgrade in the future.

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