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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 23-Jun-2004 15:46:07
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I have checked the printenv but I can only see the last part of it, how do I get it to only show a page at a time? |
I don't know how to do that in the Uboot-shell.
The only way I've managed to see the whole output myself, is via a serial-cable to a terminal on another computer._________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 23-Jun-2004 16:14:38
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This is my IDE unit setup:
Primary master: 80GB Hitachi harddrive. Primary slave: Samsung DVD-ROM. Secondary master: Acer CD-RW. Secondary slave: none.
(BTW. The CDRW is connected to the very end of the IDE-cable, which I assume is the correct place for the master?) |
Others have suggested that Hard Drives & CD/DVD drives should not share the same bus as the speed on THAT bus would drop to that of the slower device!?!
 In this example the HDDs are on the Primary bus, while the two CD/DVD drives share the Secondary bus.
 THIS diagram shows the device selected as Master placed at the end of that particular cable._________________ -vortexau, who's A1 XE-G4 remains at half-RAM ! A2000HD (from 1991) 060 64Mb PicassoII with OS3.5 . . . still working. |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 23-Jun-2004 16:29:05
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You are probably right, but that doesn't explain my problem. Here is what I get when trying to boot OS4.
With secondary IDE-port disabled:
Romtag finished [dev_init] a1ide.device 50.39 (05.04.2004)
[dev_init] ide_maxbus : '1', adjusted g_ide_maxunits to 2 [ide_list] Devices on IDE interface 0 : [ide_list] Master : 'ATA' [ide_list] Slave : 'ATAPI' [dev_open] Trying to open unit 0 for the first time [dev_open] Unit successfully configured, flags $0087 [cmd_read_write] First ubuf allocation [cmd_read_write] ubuf allocated at 01550000 [dev_open] Trying to open unit 1 for the first time [dev_open] Unit successfully configured, flags $001F
With secondary IDE-port enabled:
Romtag finished [dev_init] a1ide.device 50.39 (05.04.2004)
[dev_init] ide_maxbus : '2', adjusted g_ide_maxunits to 4 [ide_list] Devices on IDE interface 0 : [ide_list] Master : 'ATA' [ide_list] Slave : 'ATAPI' [ide_list] Devices on IDE interface 1 : [ide_list] Master : 'ATAPI' [ide_list] Slave : 'no device found' [dev_open] Trying to open unit 0 for the first time [dev_open] Unit successfully configured, flags $0087 [cmd_read_write] First ubuf allocation [cmd_read_write] ubuf allocated at 01550000 [dev_open] Trying to open unit 1 for the first time [dev_open] Unit successfully configured, flags $001F [dev_open] Trying to open unit 2 for the first time
[dev_open] Unit successfully configured, flags $001F
[DC_CheckDiskchange] Disk was inserted into device 2
[dev_open] Trying to open unit 3 for the first time [dev_open] Failed to configure unit
No place for this packet!
No place for this packet!
So, apparently OS4 think that I've inderted a disc, which I haven't...
I've just moved the CDRW to my PC, flashed with the latest firmware and moved it back, without any kind of improvement.
Hmm, while writing this, I actually got a WB screen (after some 5 minutes), but it's not really usable since everything is dead slow.
Oh, well, maybe it'll get fixed in the future, maybe not... |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:08:04
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| Now I have checked everything, it�s all where it should be. I am sure that all the hardware is supported because it worked fine before the problem occured. As far as I can tell the settings in U-boot seems okay to. This is really strange.
The only thing I can think of is that the U-boot is damaged. When I checked the flash banks with the "flinfo" command it says that I have no flashrom installed. But I can save my settings to the U-boot. Should it say that I have no flash rom installed?
I am beginning to feel the need of a null modem cable. Do you connect them between the serial ports of two computers? Are they expensive? |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:23:58
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Have the serial-cable hooked up while you try to boot with the OS4 cd, and post the terminal-output here. Hopefully the error will show up.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:27:57
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| Hopefully it will end like this

that would mean that your Uboot is ok.
Really strange problem you've got. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:34:02
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I am beginning to feel the need of a null modem cable. Do you connect them between the serial ports of two computers? Are they expensive? |
A nullmodem- or serial-cable will do.
*edit* 1,8 meter nullmodem-cable is 99SEK at Kjell&Co
Connect the cable between the serial-ports of any computer, and fire up a terminal on both. The default-settings for Uboot is 9600 baud, 8 N 1.
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When I checked the flash banks with the "flinfo" command it says that I have no flashrom installed. But I can save my settings to the U-boot. Should it say that I have no flash rom installed? |
I get the same output here, Bank # 1 No flashrom installed _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:42:38
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Hmm... I guess I really need this cable then. I have ruled out any possibility of malfunction and now it seems as if the U-boot is OK to, this is getting very frustrating. I will buy that cable tomorrow (I will probably show up here with a lots of questions about terminal programs;)) and se if I can get something sensible out of that. The problem is that my computers are about 12 m apart so either I have to by a really long serial cable (expensive) or put the computers close to each other and use a short cable (cheaper). |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:47:17
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Kolla tr�den p� Amigarulez, med titeln: Fil�verf�ring, handlade just om terminal och seriekabel
A regular serial-cable is propably a bit cheaper than a nullmodem dito. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 0:55:45
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Yeah a have already checked that thread and I have aldready set Hyperterminal to the setting you gave. I hope everything runs as smooth when I get the cable. |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 1:00:24
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Start the Hyperterminal, put it online, and then boot the A1. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 1:16:42
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Don�t I have to change anything in the U-boot. Like:
setenv stdout serial
instead of:
setenv stdout vga ?
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 1:23:02
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If you have "free" connectors on your IDE cable then you can try to set the ide_config variable:
setenv ide_config 1200
The last numbers are representing a connector each on the ports like this:
Primary Master, Primary Slave, Secondary Master, Secondary Slave
and the numbers are:
1 - a harddisk is connected here. 2 - CDROM/DVD 0 - Nothing is connected
If you have empty connectors on your cable then this will make your OS boot faster  _________________ AmigaOne Owner since 2002. The first person to get a Linux installer running on the AmigaOne :- |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 12:17:45
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But it reaches the same point and stops there. Can anyone help me on this? I would like to get my AmigaOne running again. |
At the very least the screen should go black at one point. It's possible that there is a damage on your harddisk that diskboot/a1ide is not able to cope with. A serial log would help.
Try to unplug the harddisk and boot from CD to see if that works. That would rule out a hardware problem._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 13:27:28
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You could always just try booting back of the CD to prove its not your A1 but something screwy with your HD.
Interrupt the boot sequence Insert your OS4 CD
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ide reset setenv boot1 cdrom boota
if all is well os4 should boot from CD and you can then take at a better look at your harddisc from workbench.
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Rogue beat me to it If only the German football team was so quick 
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 13:53:05
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Hmm, while writing this, I actually got a WB screen (after some 5 minutes), but it's not really usable since everything is dead slow.
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You did? Have you tried leaving it alone for a couple of hours after that? I mean, it could actually just be that it is busy revalidating one of your partitions. If so, it should be allowed to finish that.
You could also try doing an Info in a Shell and look at the statuses.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 14:27:51
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Rogue beat me to it If only the German football team was so quick |
Well, England should know, after Zidane has left two nice presents for your keeper  _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 15:41:58
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The problem is that U-boot can�t see the CD-rom if I don�t have the harddrive connected, no matter how I connect it. The CD-rom worked fine before so that should not be the reason.
I doubt it�s the harddrive, I have cleaned it, there is nothing on it and the Debian CD boots fine. The HD led doesn�t even blink when the kickstart is loading so I don�t think the hardrive is even accessed before everything stops. I made sure that the harddrive was inactive when I shut down the AmigaOne the last time before the trouble started so I would be surprised if it is the harddrive.
I have tried every possible setting and nothing helps, it has to be the U-boot that has taken damage. I thougt of buying a serial cable but I thought I could save money if I just bougth a new U-boot chip right away because I can�t see any other reason for the problem. If that doesn�t work I�ll have to send it down to GGS-data which will not be cheap... |
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 15:52:35
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The problem is that U-boot can�t see the CD-rom if I don�t have the harddrive connected, no matter how I connect it. The CD-rom worked fine before so that should not be the reason. |
Well, that points more to the CD-Rom drive as the culprit. Did you try to disconnect that?
Or, if you operate the CD-ROM alone, did you set it to master? Working as a slave only is flimsy to say the least.
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I doubt it�s the harddrive, I have cleaned it, there is nothing on it and the Debian CD boots fine |
I'm getting confused. You say that U-Boot cannot see the CDRom but the Debian CD boots fine? How is that possible?
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The HD led doesn�t even blink when the kickstart is loading so I don�t think the hardrive is even accessed before everything stops. |
Ugh, where is it loading the kickstart from, then?
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I have tried every possible setting and nothing helps, it has to be the U-boot that has taken damage. I thougt of buying a serial cable but I thought I could save money if I just bougth a new U-boot chip right away because I can�t see any other reason for the problem. If that doesn�t work I�ll have to send it down to GGS-data which will not be cheap... |
I don't think that U-Boot is damaged. You cannot simply overwrite a flash rom, not even if you would manage to somehow make it writable by accident - you need to keep a certain timing. Since your machine reaches the bootloader at all, this possibility is *very* unlikely.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 not booting Posted on 24-Jun-2004 16:03:02
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Get a serial-cable, you will have use of it more than this time. When I changed my CPU-fan, an operation that required removal of the mobo from the tower-case, and removal of the cpu-card, I was glad I had a serial-cable.
My A1 didn't boot, and I had a terrifying moment when I thought I had wrecked something (like the CPU). A serial-output showed that the gfx-card wasn't in place. Without serial-output, I guess I had needed more than five minutes to find out what was wrong 
Likewise for your problem, seems that there is some setting wrong somewhere, and a serial-output seems to be the only way to find the error. 
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