@Dandy

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Yes - of course - I pre-payed 50 Euros for it three or four years ago!

I think you have been pointed to the fact (multiple times already) that you paid your money to Amiga Inc, not Hyperion. If you want to go complain, go to them. Hyperion didn't endorse this nor did we ever get any of the money.

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@Dandy

I don't see why my statement is wrong. It is clear - and has been clear for quite some time - that you can get AOS4 if you really wanted it (i.e. by getting an A1). That you prefer to wait for the one (pre-)version of it not yet released (the classic-PPC version) is your choice.

I'm sorry if I confused you though. It was not my intention.
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@Yssing

u obviously dont work in the housebuilding industry then

i worked with this stuff for several years and there wasnt a single of the huge projects we where on that was finished in time ...and most of all people moved into the house's/buildings before the projects was completed too.

but sure...it's doesnt mean it has to stay like this, my point is things get delayed and remeber OS4 is not a multimilliondollar os like the others which still havent been released yet due to problems or thoose who's been released in beta forms for the last 4 years.

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ow no !!!
my worst fears are true im stuck in the twilight zone and its just going around and around in circles

or is this groundhog day

help please im seeing the same posts over and over again and they are not very dandy at all

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@Dandy

I think I speak for many people who have been around here for some time but are more polite than I.

I am sick of the same comments you constantly regurgitate anytime Amiga Inc. is put in the slightest of lights, good or bad, or when OS4's release date is speculated on.

If you feel you have been misled, that the advertising was false, that you were in some way bilked, go sue those you feel responsible!

No one here needs you coming along bringing down what was an enthusiastic and positive thread with your repetative rubbish, especially not dressed up in the incredibley flimsy excuse of "correcting statements"

If anyone still cares about the 1000th edition of the same old stuff you have to say, I would be mightily surprised.


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No need to apologize, Thomas! At the risk of boaring you - here is my simple answer to your simple question: I will continue to point out obviously wrong statements as long as I see them popping up and as long no one else feels empowered...

Thank *od for heroic rescuers like you who have the courage to step in and save us impotent BAF's from our miserable selves!

Where would the Amiga scene be today if it weren't for Dandy?

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@Dandy

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Yes - of course - I pre-payed 50 Euros for it three or four years ago!

For the record, those "offers" where from Amiga Inc. Not from Hyperion. I remember some other people that payed for things also back then but it was all Amiga Inc. Got some coupons myself too but done by Amiga Inc. so I will just bug them when I feel like I should. Just to clear the confusion, if there was ever any, Hyperion did not give out coupons/pay-up-front stuff etc.

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We will now keep a eye on whether or not Dandy seeks to blame Hyperion or otherwise imply Hyperion is responsible for providing him a copy of AmigaOS4 because of the Amiga Inc coupon issue - or imply its a prepayment scheme.

If he repeats it one more time, then he will be considered to be trolling and given a 30 day suspension.

Im sick and tired of seeing it explained to him that he is effectively slandering Hyperion when he claims it or implying it.

One more time. Thats it. There is only so many times it can be down to reading comprehension.

I put this here rather than in the staff forum because I want Dandy to get fair warning on the matter.

Take the matter up with Amiga Inc please Dandy.

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Aside from that I'm fed up with people making obviously wrong or false statements in their posts here - for what reason ever.

I don't believe you are helping anyone with your "corrections" and such. All I see are flames.

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Hey, here's a question: for those of you saying "Go buy a micro a1!" ... where exactly can one find one that it won't take six to eight months to get? (That's all I hear from people who've got one or have ordered one - that they had to wait months, or that they have months to wait).

Furthermore, what happens when the apparently tiny handful of these boards sell out? M-A-I is G-O-N-E, and nobody at Eyetech seems to be willing to even mention in passing whether or not that will be addressed.

So it looks like the A1 line is going to end up like CS-PPC cards: rare, super-expensive, very broken and nigh-impossible to get repaired.

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@TheDungeonDelver

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Furthermore, what happens when the apparently tiny handful of these boards sell out? M-A-I is G-O-N-E

Currently mai.com is in a state of flux. It was down, then it was back up with directly listing on and no default file defined (for those who understand what that implies), then it was back up with a default page, and now it's back as a directory listing.

For those who want their own personal copy of the MAI website, now is a good time to go download a zipped copy of your very own!

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M-A-I is G-O-N-E,

Regardless of what fancy dashes you insert into it, it won't get any more true. If it where, you would probably be able to find some record of that, other than the broad assumption that their web site was gone.

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@TheDungeonDelver

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Hey, here's a question: for those of you saying "Go buy a micro a1!" ... where exactly can one find one that it won't take six to eight months to get? (That's all I hear from people who've got one or have ordered one - that they had to wait months, or that they have months to wait).

Well I ordered my µA1 from GGS-Data in sweden and got it in less than a week!
but it was a couple of months ago, so maybe it's harder to get a µA1 now, I just don't know...

@Rogue


I'd more call those "plain" dashes; "M~A~I is G~O~N~E" - now there's some fancy dashes.

If you've got some information to share about the company's status, don't you think it might...oh, I don't know help you sell your product which you keep going on about the effort you're pouring in to let prospective buyers know that the hardware platform hasn't evaporated?

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Rogue wrote: @TheDungeonDelver Quote: M-A-I is G-O-N-E, Regardless of what fancy dashes you insert into it, it won't get any more true. If it where, you would probably be able to find some record of that, other than the broad assumption that their web site was gone.

Pick your battles. :)

I wouldn't hang my hat on Mai, your success doesn't depend on them. If they go, well, it's not like OS4 will shrivel up and die without some specific chipset.

edit : "wouldn't hang my hat on mai" means I wouldn't consider it worth defending their status when it doesn't really matter to you. If they're dead, it's about as relevant as a Via 686b is to Microsoft.

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@TheDungeonDelver

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I'd more call those "plain" dashes; "M~A~I is G~O~N~E" - now there's some fancy dashes.

Oh, how funny.

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If you've got some information to share about the company's status, don't you think it might...oh, I don't know help you sell your product which you keep going on about the effort you're pouring in to let prospective buyers know that the hardware platform hasn't evaporated?

What is so difficult to understand in the simple sentence "MAI is not gone"? What other information do you want? Moreover, unless you have a clear proof (I mean like an entry in an official registry or anything like that), how can you claim that a company does no longer exist?

Oh wait, since when does one need any backup to start spreading rumours?

I will not say more on that matter.

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Hmm i had to say something so here it comes.

I am to waiting for AmigaOS for my classic just like dandy and i get just as annoyed when ppl tell me "AmigaOS IS available, IS buyable. Buy an A1. Be a real supporter. etc etc etc"as most of you get on us when we say that we want os4 for our classic.

One thing that will make this better is when final version is out on all plattforms. Or (god forbid) that the classic version i canceld.

Why are AmigaOS 4 classic supporters less of an amiga user then the rest of you "elite" A1 owners ? It's not like that ? well atleast i get that feeling when i'm on this forum.

Oh and Dandy the next time just say "No it's not available to Classic users who don't want to buy an A1 yet" Maybe people will be less furius on you. But i guess not.

Peace.

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@Yssing

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You will never hear a contractor stating that your house is done when it is done. But you can however get a functional room rigth now... Maybe your house/car/boat/what ever is ready some time next year.

Funny you should mention that. When I bought my new-build house, it was due for completion in November 1998. I put my flat up for sale, only to be told there was delay and took my flat off the market again. I was then told May 1999 would be the move in date. Flat on the market again. Yet another series of delays, flat off market again and extremely narked estate agent. I eventually moved in November 1999.
Furthermore, as anyone who has ever moved into a new-build house will tell you, there is something called a snagging list. This details all the parts of the 'finished' house that are not finished.
You have to hand this to the contractor, who then does his utmost best to avoid finishing them.

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I can see why some people are getting somewhat frustrated, including me.

I know what you mean though and I feel the same - bought an iBook recently.

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where exactly can one find one that it won't take six to eight months to get?

I guess if you really wanted an answer to that question you might have mentioned where you live. Your profile only mentions that your member is unknown.

You might try with a dealer that actually has a board at home (atm there are several) the rest wil depend on how long it takes to make a package and what kind of postal service you have!

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Furthermore, what happens when the apparently tiny handful of these boards sell out?

All production runs eventually sell out. Or they don't! My guess is that there will be no more when that happens. Or they may make few more. Whichever, sooner or later it will be time to move on to the next modell/version of the AOne and all the original µA1's will enter the world of collectors items.

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M-A-I is G-O-N-E

Really? What happened?

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So it looks like the A1 line is going to end up like CS-PPC cards: rare, super-expensive, very broken and nigh-impossible to get repaired.

Mai Logic doesn't do any repairs, they don't even make the boards so I don't see how this has any bearing on the subject!

What usually makes something expensive is the fact that the demand is greater than the supply. The price reflects how willing you are to have one in your possesion, this is usually irrespective of how many are available from the beginning.

It would be nice if an excess of boards existed but for the most part Amiga dealers can't afford to have 10's of mb's lying around unsold. I suspect that Eyetech cannot either afford to have 1000's of unsold boards so the only option is to produce a number of boards as close as possible to what you expect the demand to be.

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