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Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 21:54:25
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| I have just found out today that the Daylight Savings Time will take place on another date for the US. I am wondering if OS4 knows about the change and if it will properly update it's clock? |
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 21:58:11
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| @nzv58l
To my knowledge, Canada will also make the same changes in order to be in sync with the American markets. _________________ When swimming with sharks, make sure to bring lots of band-aids...  |
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 22:07:51
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I just found out at work here, so I thought I would make everyone aware of it.
I can run a test on my Amiga, but I won't be using it tonight so it will take me a bit before I can play with it.
They are saying it may cause more impact than the Y2K scare.
Personally I never liked Daylight Savings Time. Last edited by nzv58l on 10-Jan-2007 at 10:09 PM.
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 22:07:59
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I also read on Microsoft's site that parts of Australia were making changes this time round, so wonder if that will work too. _________________

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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 22:23:54
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They are saying it may cause more impact than the Y2K scare.
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Who are "They"?
Details please._________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 22:26:25
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| @nzv58l It is just a simple AmigaOS file update whenever some government changes its mind. You worry too much.  _________________ ExecSG Team Lead |
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 23:16:50
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I just took a look at the Time Zone tab in the Locale prefs. It states that the next time zone change is April 1, 2007 which is the old, wrong way.
@ssolie Considering our (nzv58l and mine) government "changed its mind" quite a while ago, I hope that simple file update shows up sometime in the next six weeks. Otherwise, I'm going to have to pretend to live in Chicago for a month.

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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 23:19:50
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The Western Australian government introduced a 3 year trial of Day Light Saving on the 3rd of December last year, to be followed by a referendum... so how easy is it change this file (end user changable)? It would be nice to shift my A1 back to the timezone its supposed to be in.  |
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 10-Jan-2007 23:26:28
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| I'm not the lucky owner of an AOS4 system (yet), but I'm curious to know: Does OS4.0 make use of a (long) TZ environment variable ?
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 2:43:48
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No, there is a TZONE string environment variable.
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You can alter the settings for your country in LOCALE:Timezones/yourcountry.timezone
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 2:55:41
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Thanks Tony! Copied the appropriate rule to the WST timezone, saved, opened Locale prefs, adjusted, saved... and sweet!
Cheers!
Edit: Couldn't make much sense of the rule however.  Last edited by Reaps on 11-Jan-2007 at 02:56 AM.
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 3:25:45
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Darnit! Here I thought Hyperion would need to give us another update before March (underlying motive). Now all I need to do is update some settings. Dang! Amiga OS is too good!
As far as who was saying what, it is just from the rumor mill. I work in the IT field, so I overhear things all the time. Personally I don�t think it will be much of a problem as everyone seems to be aware of it, but I am sure some things will happen.
OK! I edited my Locale/Timezones/United States.timezone, now what do I change?
I see my timezone and I see the TZ key and the Rule sayse M4.1.0/2,M10.5.0/2.
So I change this to:
M3.11.0/2,M11.25.0/2
I take it that M3.11 would be March 11th I am not sure what the 0/2 is though. Does someone have a decoder ring for this stuff?
Last edited by nzv58l on 11-Jan-2007 at 03:44 AM.
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 3:50:40
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Dang! Amiga OS is too good! |
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 4:38:29
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nzv58l wrote: @Reaps
So I change this to:
M3.11.0/2,M11.25.0/2
I take it that M3.11 would be March 11th I am not sure what the 0/2 is though. Does someone have a decoder ring for this stuff?
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I did a little playing. M3.11.0/2 got me March 25. I set it to M3.2.0/2 and got March 11. I think the second number is the week. I'd guess the third number is day of the week. The /2 is probably the time the change occurs (24-hour format?).
Oh, and DST ends the first Sunday of November, not the last. That makes my string look like:
M3.2.0/2,M11.1.0/2
I hope that's right._________________ Tony T.
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 8:22:28
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 22:10:05
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Is this variable created by the system ? (Time tool ?) What is the format used ? Is there documentation describing the format used for timezone / DST rule in OS4.0 ? Can whatever use LOCALE:Timezones/yourcountry.timezone parse more than one string format ?
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 22:50:03
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What is the new rule? I'd like to change the internal rule in FACTS.
Chris
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 11-Jan-2007 23:22:50
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 12-Jan-2007 5:41:06
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Is this variable created by the system ? (Time tool ?) What is the format used ? Is there documentation describing the format used for timezone / DST rule in OS4.0 ? Can whatever use LOCALE:Timezones/yourcountry.timezone parse more than one string format ?
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What I discovered: In the LOCALE:Timezones/ drawer are multiple XML files. Each file is for a different country, with the name -countryname-.timezone (e.g. Argentina.timezone). Inside the XML file is an array of < dict > entries for each timezone within that country, with each entry having its own TZONE string.
edit - Let's use Amiga terminology for directories  Last edited by syrtran on 12-Jan-2007 at 05:43 AM. Last edited by syrtran on 12-Jan-2007 at 05:41 AM.
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Re: Will OS4 handle the new Daylight Savings Time schedule? Posted on 12-Jan-2007 9:45:36
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Why can't you just set your clock from the net, via a time server, works every time. 
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