@stereomind

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let guys work ..

Exactly!

and, btw:

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@opi

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If asking for such trivial stuff can be turned into "discrediting nonsense" I think it's not him who as a problem, it's Aeon.

Hmmm. Although I feel sure that A-Eon are doing their very best - now is the time to make some sort of progress press release. An honest one with some honest time lines in it.

It looks like the project will be at least a year late and the last thing they need is bad press building up through user frustration of yet another product announcement that never materialises.

All the best A-Eon - how about an update?

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@stereomind

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@Seiya

The hold-up is probably OS4.1 classic. The hardware is probably ready. Waiting for OS4/drivers from Hyperion. Still it's worrying. Every day that goes by makes computer hardware that much more dated. At some point it just isn't worth going on. That point hasn't been reached yet with X-1000.

Also, I think prospective customers have a right to question a prospective product, especially when it costs way over a thousand dollars. It's going on a year since the original announcement. No wonder people are wondering. Aso the NDA is a pain. Why can't we know more about the beta-test program? What's so secret? Secrecy is generally a bad thing in the Amiga market. Generally the truth is not as bad as the numerous theories and rumors.

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@thinkchip

iPad 2 is due out wednesday, it will be close to X1000 performance, a quarter of the price and a heck of a lot more portable....

@persia

And it won't natively run your favourite OS.

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@Varthall

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And it won't natively run your favourite OS.

Hyperion could have ported it to ARM instead of A1X1K.

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@damocles

still wouldnt work on an iPad

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@thinkchip

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The hold-up is probably OS4.1 classic.

No it's not. Some devs have been on and said that it is not holding anything up for the X1000.

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It's going on a year since the original announcement.

It's over a year now. 14 months.

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Why can't we know more about the beta-test program?

You don't want beta test knowledge bandied about in public. Every little error could get blown out of proportion. I fully understand that. What could be provided though is a general update with expected release date. Yes it is dangerous to give a release date - no matter how tenuous - but if you don't want the bad publicity of frustrated users then there must be some consensus of opinion on a likely date by now.

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@Derfs

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still wouldnt work on an iPad

I am sure it would be a ton of work with drivers and bypassing Apple's firmware, if needed, but I don't see a reason why it could not function initially as hosted like AROS is with ARM Linux . Had OS4 been ported to ARM, that is.

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@persia

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iPad 2 is due out wednesday, it will be close to X1000 performance, a quarter of the price and a heck of a lot more portable....

That has nothing to do with it. We are talking about a new machine to run OS4 not iOS 4.3

Portability isn't even an X1000 design goal.

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@damocles

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I am sure it would be a ton of work with drivers and bypassing Apple's firmware, if needed, but I don't see a reason why it could not function initially

Spend a massive amount of resource on a version for the iPad which may not ever work or focus on your own hardware?

Apple would want to block it at every point - it simply wouldn't be worthwhile.

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@persia

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iPad 2 is due out wednesday, it will be close to X1000 performance, a quarter of the price and a heck of a lot more portable....

Yes, with a touch screen interface, very limited expandability and no option to run any OS other than Apple's own. I'm not sure that it's sensible to compare this type of device to a full desktop computer.

@persia

P.S. I bet Apple's profit margins on the iPad 2 will be huge compared to A-Eon's on the X1000. Economies of scale?

@stereomind

Welcome!

@damocles

One would hope that a port of OS4 to ARM is underway. There are some really nice A9 pads coming out of China that offer a reasonable price/performance ratio. I'd love an AmiPad to go with my collection of Android and Apple tablets.

@thinkchip

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Every day that goes by makes computer hardware that much more dated.

Yet the performance jump over previous OS4 compatible hardware stays the same.

@Everyone

There will be an X1000 update in the next issue of Amiga Future.

This isn't a cue to start banging on about a conspiracy to make you buy a magazine you wouldn't otherwise buy.

@-Sam-

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You don't want beta test knowledge bandied about in public. Every little error could get blown out of proportion.

this, though suggested repeatedly (mostly by someone from the fan-base), sounds really paranoid.
to give you an example: on aros everybody is allowed to the dev-ml. even me. i was never much interrested in aros till 68k port has begun. now i can see things done every single day. and i can see bugs and flaws of aros, many of them were putting me off before, but will be fixed soon eventually. im not telling aros pr strategy is the best, but in this respect it is the way even a commercial entity like hyperion could improve the communication to own advantage, instead of sending everybody nda forms.

@persia

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persia wrote: @thinkchip iPad 2 is due out wednesday, it will be close to X1000 performance, a quarter of the price and a heck of a lot more portable....

Too bad it lacks keyboard and runs a ####ty drm infested OS. ;(
I would not even swap my so 533mhz sam for that ####.

@persia

maybe you should say that in an AROS thread, not a X1000 thread

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