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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 21-Jul-2012 23:34:02
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I think he means they have to pay for the port (not the right) |
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 21-Jul-2012 23:36:19
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 21-Jul-2012 23:39:16
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 21-Jul-2012 23:43:25
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I was pretty sure that was you throwing me a smiley over there. heh.
As far as h/w is concerned, anyone interested in details should speak with ssolie. Anything you read on the forums is merely conjecture.
http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=463
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Have not done anything there (Amiga.org) yet, just following threads here and there.
I get what you mean, I don't have the means to create a single thing hardware wise. |
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 21-Jul-2012 23:44:36
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OlafS25 wrote: @Cod3r
I think he means they have to pay for the port (not the right) |
Understood. Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 21-Jul-2012 23:50:24
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 0:05:54
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If it was ported to another CPU architecture yes, that's way they don't do it until they absolutely must. Hyperions income comes from software licenses, hardware manufactures income comes from selling some thing interesting, so its a mutual interest, Acube-Systems write driver development in house, so it depends on the deal, some one has pay to for the work, but the income comes from sales. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 22-Jul-2012 at 01:22 AM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 22-Jul-2012 at 01:21 AM.
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 0:13:16
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They are free to do what ever they like, even if they do a AmigaOS3/680x0 based system they might or should talk to Hyperion considering they are the ones developing AmigaOS, or they can go the AROS route, that’s there choice, but AROS is slower because it written in C and not 680x0 Assembler. _________________ http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/ Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS |
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 0:36:17
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I can name a few companies in the past that did not have anything to show.
BoXeR and Inside out prototypes, never made it to market.
ACK announced a computer whit out having made a deal whit Hyperion, ACK no hardware was ever shown.
Troika an other company promised gold at the end of the rainbow, created a few reference designs that did not work, and never made contract whit Hyperion.
All this generated lots and lots frustration about broken promises in Amiga community (Customers), it was all done horribly unprofessional.
Talk to the right people, or start by finding out what we the (Amiga) customers are interested and then decide what to do, you should really not show anything until you have a working prototype, and you should probably contact OS developers and make a deal. _________________ http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/ Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS |
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 0:40:13
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Make life simpler. Just link. Heh.
Oh, and don't believe everything you've been told.
Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 0:54:00
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It took quite a bit of time, but I finally read through this thread. As someone who may be new here, I will tread carefully, but I will also state the facts.
Cod3r is an excellent young developer. He is capable of the things he has mentioned. The ColdFire SBC does exist. How do I know? I know him personally. I even gave him pointers on creating the bootstrap.
He is a software developer by trade, and is quite talented at his craft. He is a graduate from the university that brought you the first graphical web browser. And I know talented developers when I see them, as I am a former Motorola employee.
I find it quite interesting and intriguing that people around the world are still interested in the technology created by Motorola. As an employee, my experience there was invaluable.
The work wasn't easy, but the reward (and pay) was well worth it. And to think that our work contributed to things that would ultimately change the technological world is a humbling experience.
To have worked at Motorola was not simply a job. It was a community and culture within itself. We had nearly everything you could imagine at our disposal within the company grounds.
So in short, I enjoy the banter, and am invigorated by the spirit of this community. However, do not hold hostility and contempt for those who wish to join your ranks.
For those who wish to join you, may be the very ones to save you.
Amigans, I truly understand you. In the beginning, I was a Commie |
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 0:57:28
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Thanks for sharing some of your history.
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However, do not hold hostility and contempt for those who wish to join your ranks. |
I'm afraid some of that attitude has passed down from "management". My apologies.
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:09:48
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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @Franko
They are free to do what ever they like, even if they do a AmigaOS3/680x0 based system they might or should talk to Hyperion considering they are the ones developing AmigaOS, or they can go the AROS route, that’s there choice, but AROS is slower because it written in C and not 680x0 Assembler. |
There's no such thing as being free to do what you like when it comes to the Amiga (least not in a commercial sense) as sadly the vultures would soon be stuffing more cash into the lawyers pockets on anyone attempting to do so...
Hyperion only develop an Amiga OS for PPC based machines and as Cod3r has said he knows little about PPC anyway...
Whichever route Cod3r chooses to go can only be a good thing if something finally comes of it, so lets just wait and see...
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:10:52
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Oh, and don't believe everything you've been told.
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:13:13
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:15:09
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Anything particular in mind, do tell please |
I think I'll wait to see what appears in the Viva Amiga film. We can discuss a sequel later.
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:15:09
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:19:30
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:21:19
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Anything particular in mind, do tell please |
I think I'll wait to see what appears in the Viva Amiga film. We can discuss a sequel later.
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Re: Would you support a company that decided to support Amiga? Posted on 22-Jul-2012 1:24:04
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I can name a few companies in the past that did not have anything to show.
BoXeR and Inside out prototypes, never made it to market.
ACK announced a computer whit out having made a deal whit Hyperion, ACK no hardware was ever shown.
Troika an other company promised gold at the end of the rainbow, created a few reference designs that did not work, and never made contract whit Hyperion.
All this generated lots and lots frustration about broken promises in Amiga community (Customers), it was all done horribly unprofessional.
Talk to the right people, or start by finding out what we the (Amiga) customers are interested and then decide what to do, you should really not show anything until you have a working prototype, and you should probably contact OS developers and make a deal. |
All I can say that many in the past failed but some actually did succeed. So maybe it is just the luck of the draw?
And since you mention it, what do Amiga customers want? If you could make a dream machine what would it be?
And who are the right people? Can you give me some names? I will work to create something new. I am offering myself.
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