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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 2:38:47
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Googling reporters and their speculated pricing models, mentioned in the articles does not constitute a business plan. If they think it does, well everyone else knows, 2006/2007/2008 == Trillion Dollar loses world wide... WAKE up and MOVE ON, 2009 pricing and business model is changed already. Try googleing PROTECTIONISM.
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 2:42:50
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You would need $500,000 (BULK PRE-PAID ORDER) to even get close to offering systems to the public for less than $500.00. CAN ANYONE HANDLE THE TRUTH! LET ALONE SELL 1 million dollars worth of notebooks, quick enough to make money back! Or will they just foreclose on their bank loans, and call it TOXIC Assets.
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Oh, really? And what costs are you including there? The development of the board that was not done by you or your company or the production that is not done by you or your company? You keep comparing yourself with Acube so here's a newsflash: Acube designed, arranged production, wrote the software and marketed the Sam. Hence the price. You're doing just the final part of the equation, for a product announced to have an RRP of $250 and charge $250 for it. So, you want to dispel that $250 as a myth? Fine. Tell us, how much did you pay for each unit?_________________
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 3:03:52
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Please kill this thread. I think there's been enough free "bad" press for meet.mrnrg's LimePC. He's just insulting all of us now and talking in circles. Until this thread is locked, he will continue to goad people into buying one of his LimePCs. I think everyone in this thread has already confirmed they won't buy one.
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 3:03:59
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Speculative hearsay! _________________ Quote:
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 3:05:13
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I will place an pre-order 1-3 Months 7 % 7 % (9) I will place an pre-order 3-6 Months 0 % 0 % (1) I will place an pre-order 6-12 Months 1 % 1 % (2) When its Amiga enabled or compatible 63 % 63 % (78) No 17 % 17 % (21) Pancakes 7 % 7 % (9) 2 more weeks 2 % 2 % (3)
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 3:11:08
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A press release is not speculative hearsay, neither is marketing material at shows. If a price that has officially been announced for such an extremely low end machine with so extremely cheap parts is significantly higher than the announced price it's a failure to meet the specification, not speculative hearsay. And this is not an answer to my question: How much did you pay for the machines?Last edited by Zardoz on 07-Apr-2009 at 03:12 AM.
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 3:48:27
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Your hungry perhaps? All these years your saying they have done it for less... But reality == How many people have how many units?
No more comments on PRICING --- OR BUSINESS MODEL... Full Stop!
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 4:34:18
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You could send a private message to Zardoz about the product's wholesale price and reduce this attack vector. _________________ Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 64 GB RAM, GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Amiga 1200 (Rev 1D1, KS 3.2, PiStorm32lite/RPi 4B 4GB/Emu68) Amiga 500 (Rev 6A ECS, KS 3.2, PiStorm/RPi 3A+/Emu68) |
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 5:17:00
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No more comments on PRICING --- OR BUSINESS MODEL... Full Stop!
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You aren't a mod and I don't think it's your place to go around telling people what they can and can't post about your increasingly dubious "business".
Which, I should point out, seems to hinge on you selling two useless from an Amiga standpoint netbooks for two times their retail value via eBay.
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 6:57:00
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this thread contains SOMETHING associated with horses and gardens.
There will BE an Amiga laptop when and if someone draws up a business plan that makes sense to accountants and bankers,and not before. |
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 7:02:51
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2) I hope to setup a PayPal donate button, so that we can raise money, to send machines to CORE OS4.0 developer and testers. |
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Still have to setup the bounty to raise money for LimeBook donations to Core Developers! Is Anybody willing to lend a hand on the bounty creation? or just is this going to be another 2 more weeks ordeal? |
Had you included Hyperion in your discussions as to whether they would consider an OS4 port to this hardware?
If you were planning on starting a bounty to send hardware to them, I would suggest you first read this post: http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4544&start=60#61065
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 9:48:00
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mmmmmmmmmm
It may be possibile the unlucky chap just done it so he wouldnt sell thse notebooks, and would allow amiga users to view them.
(hahahahahahahaha)
(re reads what he wrote, slight pause, amusingly so, sounds like bullshet)
HONESTLY :
Why has mr meet overpriced the items so much is beyond any of us anyway, according to him it is due to business prices, but one thing is for sure, instead of us hassling the ****** why dont we just sit back, relax, and see if he manages to convince an OS4.x developer, to port it to LIME.
Morph guys probably wont bother with it, and aros has no reason too, we can run aros on 1.6ghz laptops anyway.
Personally, I think Acube may have other plans for another desktop board, thats twice the speed again from their current offerings.
And maybe they already have other plans on laptops, for example, an ARM laptop??
We do not know now do we, so everything here seems to be based on speculation, and I personally, find it a tad annoying how far this thread has gone with comments, rather than just leaving it be, and viewing it as a potential pipe dream unless prooven otherwise.
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 9:54:15
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It seems I have to repeat myself.
"This isn't going to happen without you talking directly to Hyperion and putting a lot of money into the project yourself." |
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:18:36
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:19:54
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That could be true... But double value...
Hey look, after all being said and done - all the manufacturer did, was to glue the parts together right? From material that came out of the ground at one time. Well from a price stand point of view I could argue that the components contain gold. As most computer parts do contain gold etc..
So GOLD was worth; (1970 $37.4) and now (2008 $865.0) Year Gold, USD/oz[1] Silver, USD/oz[2] DJIA, USD[3] World GDP, USD tn[4] US Debt, USD bn[5] 1970 37.4 1.6 838.9 3.3 370.1 1975 140.3 4.2 852.4 6.4 533.2 1980 589.5 15.5 964.0 11.8 907.7 1985 327.0 5.8 1,546.7 13.0 1,823.1 1990 353.4 4.2 2,633.7 22.2 3,233.3 1995 369.6 5.1 5,117.1 29.8 4,974.0 2000 272.7 4.6 10,786.9 31.9 5,662.2 2005 513.0 8.8 10,717.5 45.1 8,170.4 2008 865.0 10.8 8,776.4 54.6 10,699.8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_as_an_investment
I mean common, these days it's not as if they shovel the stuff manually. It's all giant machines doing the hard work. Perhaps that itself is the reason for the price hike?
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:29:05
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:29:23
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Nice history in the forum, ha. I remember that thread! It consumes so much time just to answer these threads, that God forbid I should look away long enough to be able call them in an appropriate mood, without being branded as someone ignoring ALL questions asked! _________________ Quote:
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:33:14
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Excellent - perhaps the world will take note and save up $500.00 or wait until the price reaches a $0.99US like the KFC value meals. Then we would be in business right, I mean common who doesn't have $0.99c.
Similar story. http://www.liliputing.com/2008/04/eee-pc-900-shows-up-on-ebay.html -- But $650 was the price tag. Last edited by meet.mrnrg on 07-Apr-2009 at 10:37 AM.
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:40:00
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I don't think KFC is flicking these as part of a combo, but are there any bargains at foreclosure sales?_________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.2GHz | Gigabyte P35-DS3R Motherboard 2 x 2GB Dual Channel CL4 PC6400 DDR2 | XFX 512MB nVidia 8800GT Samsung 500GB HDD | Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit SP2 |
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Re: [Poll] LimeBook PPC - FOR AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS Developer - Evaluation Posted on 7-Apr-2009 10:43:14
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Your hungry perhaps? All these years your saying they have done it for less... But reality == How many people have how many units?
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Right, I think it's about time I let you know that you do not own this forum and it is not in your position to say what can and should be discussed. This is a forum and the dubious parts of this preposition are the pricing AND the business model. Unless you do something to counter that, sorry, you will keep getting comments about it. If you cannot deal with this maybe you should start marketing things to more gullible markets that will not question you.
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And you seem to be the only person in it to think that. Maybe that should be a pointer that it's not that you're a genius and everyone else a retard but MAYBE you do not give people any real information._________________
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