@AmigaBlitter

OS4 by Hyperion on the Pegasos 2 is good enough for me.

@AmigaBlitter

I want a desktop Amiga OS on a modern desktop machine, I don't give a flying fornication if it's AmigaOS4 on a PowerPC or AmigaOS5 on an AMD64, I just want it. Sooner, rather than later.

However, I figure it more likely now that we'll see new PowerPC machines running OS4 soon. I also figure we will see OS 5 machines in a coupla years, and that I'll be able to run OS4 programs in emulation on OS5 to at least the same extent that I'll be able to run OS 3 programs on OS 4 machines.

In any event, I look forward to both machines.

I figure Hyperion has done a good job so far in creating OS4. The only thing holding back final-release version of 4.0 is new hardware. If OS4.1 is done by Hyperion, or by Amiga Inc, or cooperatively by both, I don't really care, so long as it comes out.

As for who should produce the hardware? Let it be ACK, let it be Troika, let it be Eyetech, let it be any other company that meets Amiga Inc's criteria... In fact, let it be all of the above!!! The more companies making official OS4-capable machines the better.

I don't expect, or care about the idea that, Peg hardware might be adapted/redesigned to run OS4. That's one that's as likely to happen as Apple buying out Microsoft and shutting down Windoze development, so lets not waste anymore breath on that one...

I don't really give a dang about AmigaAnywhere... though if they have AmigaAnywhere available within OS5 (but not as OS5!) I would probably play with it anyway...

Have I missed anything?

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@AmigaHeretic

> morphos on x86


That will not happen any time soon. I guess we'd see the Friedens
switching earlier to x86 than the MOS team. IA-32 is totally out of
discussion (wrong endianess), MorphOS is PPC only.

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I'd like to see AInc. leave AOS alone cause if they get their hands on it they'll probably screw it. AOS was never meant to be a server OS anyway...

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@Jose

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Jose wrote: I'd like to see AInc. leave AOS alone cause if they get their hands on it they'll probably screw it. AOS was never meant to be a server OS anyway...

You know, they have been "working" on OS5 since (what was it, May 2004).

I want to make sure that hyperion doesn't get shafted for their hard work on OS4. It would break my heart to see Amiga INC take all the drivers/supporting software that Hyperion had worked so hard on the past few years, stick em in OS5, and then leave Hyperion out in the cold.

I want a JVM for AmigaOS, then we might be able to turn some heads on the hardware front (Remember, we only want $500,000 companies, none of these garage based startups, especially some bunch a yay-hoos building hardware while making joysticks!!)

@dear1700

I don't think Hyperion are going to get shafted. It's probably still going to be awhile before OS5 comes out, and Amiga Inc is talking about companies wanting to make PPC-based Amigas, which very much implies the use of OS4 for awhile...

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@AmigaBlitter

What do you really want? Amiga OS4, DE, OS5?

OS4 sounds good... Or any AmigaOS would do...



Who should develop the Amiga OS?

Hmm, who should develop the BMW M3?
Who should develop the Ford F150?
Who should develop Microsoft Windows?
Who should develop Sony Playstation 3?
Who should develop the Amiga OS?



Who must provide the hardware?

Could i care less? Well obviously someone who knows their stuff, but other than that, just give me something up to date (x86, PPC or whatever) that can run a new AmigaOS and I will be the happiest person on earth!

@T_Bone

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AmigaOS(x) on regular fv##### x86 hardware

You "AmigaOS on x86" guys seem to be in a constant loop about this.
THERE IS AMIGAOS ON X86 and it's called AROS. Hurry up, there are still some seats left in the AROS bus, but if you continue in your endless loop, you may miss it.

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@thread

OS4. Is this only my first impression of what the users really want?

Quoting OSnews article:

"Apparently they've been maintaining development of AmigaDE (AmigaOS 5.0), while developing AmigaOS 4 as a fall-back."

uhm...

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@drHirudo
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THERE IS AMIGAOS ON X86 and it's called AROS.

It's fun that AROS counts as AmigaOS, while MorphOS, which even provides binary compatibility unlike AROS, does not count... Anyway, i fully agree with your post this time.

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@thread


http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=15837

the comment are explanatory

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@Chain-Q

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It's fun that AROS counts as AmigaOS, while MorphOS, which even provides binary compatibility unlike AROS, does not count

Well technically Morphos is a totally diferent kernel (qbox) runing an Amiga sandbox.Aros is a rewrite from scratch of the Amiga API.Which is more AmigaOS?

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@Fransexy
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technically Morphos is a totally diferent kernel (qbox) runing an Amiga sandbox.

First, Quark is the kernel, not QBox. Second, do you have any clue about how Quark works internally? ExecSG is just about as different as Quark compared to classic Exec internals. (Look at OS4 SDK Exec headers to have a clue...) Not to mention, that practically all drivers/etc for MorphOS runs inside ABox, so 98% of functionality is inside an Amiga environment.

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Which is more AmigaOS?

Well, MorphOS uses AROS parts... AROS also runs hosted, similarly (and very differently at the same time) how MorphOS ABox runs on top of Quark. So even the question is flawed.

If you ask me, Amiga OS == 3.1, the last version released by C=. Since then, there were various clones, patchsets and spinoffs of the system. There's nothing wrong with that, also it's up to everyone if he uses one or not, it's just how i see it. Anyone is free to think differently, i just wanted to show in my first post, that how controversial the reasoning about what is Amiga and AmigaOS is in some case. Arguing agains MorphOS, for not being AmigaOS, then later arguing against x86 fans with "AROS is the x86 AmigaOS", while MOS and AROS shares significant parts. But again, feel free to think different.

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@AmigaBlitter

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AmigaBlitter wrote: What do you really want? Amiga OS4, DE, OS5.

AmigaOS 4 (or equivalent, I don't care about arbitrary version numbers).

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Who should develop the Amiga OS?

Whoever is competent. Also, whoever doesn't have an irrational fear for popular and sellable hardware.

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Who must provide the hardware?

"Must"?
Someone, and lots of them. :) AmigaOS and us customers must NOT be restricted to ONLY buy licensed "new Amiga" hardware, otherwise there will not be any hardware at all for us to buy which can be at all competitive and commercially attractive. Nobody that matters will "provide" hardware "for" AmigaOS, it's up to the owners/developers of AmigaOS to try to sell their software product for use on good hardware.

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@Chain-Q

It was only a retoric question.Not intented to star a flamewar.Personally not understand why always people must made one choice.Why not use all? i use AOS, AROS and i´m making an A1200 captable of run Morphos.(also have a Win laptop, mac laptop, Beos machine, amithlon).The problem is than none is perfec that is why i use all.I must be a rare man

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@drHirudo

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THERE IS AMIGAOS ON X86 and it's called AROS.

You forgot WinUAE/Amithlon !

I'm sure Hyperion might consider porting AOS4.x to ex-86 the day Morphos is happily runing on the latest AMD/INTEL/Whatever !

Now AOS4.x/AOS5 on PS3... That could be something !

Jerry

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@Reth

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but im also very interested in the Samantha specs

Wait just a little more...

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@Fransexy
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It was only a retoric question. (...) The problem is than none is perfec that is why i use all.I must be a rare man

Oh... Well, either case, you're not alone. Although i don't have that much systems currently, but i also like using many different OSes. Roughly for the reason you wrote. None is perfect, so i use each for the job it's the best for.

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