Great write up @fishy_fis, really lays it down in a consumable manner. I have a pretty high powered Mac running FS-UAE and as you mention, there's not a lot I can throw at this that will make anything break a sweat. But as you alluded to, there's nothing quite like using the actual hardware I grew up with.

One thing I've not mentioned (though may already be covered in the suggestions here), is an option to cover all the fun Amiga screen modes. The first thing that pings to my mind, is playing SlamTilt in High Res. Do the options in here include flicker fixing for a solid image? I have remember having something back in the day, but the flicker fixing caused a sort of interlaced effect when scrolling. As in, though the flicker was gone, when scrolling, so was every other line.

Appreciate the narrative pointers too, fortunately I have a pretty hardened filter so, like a good ad filter, I'm reasonably adept at bypassing certain content.

FuZion.

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Ooh this is fun. I've just re-remembered/re-discovered that there are a new set of 3.2 Rom chips. Are these generally recommended for getting up to date? Any weird compatibility issues I need to be aware of with these?

@ppcamiga1

I'll have some of what your smoking please, lol.
You really are nuts. How can you sit there day after day spewing constant "PPC propaganda BS".
See what I did there, used your own words, :).

Stop trolling and start working on porting "ZUNE" to your toaster, you joker.

@FuZion

In my opinion, its the best low cost card released for the Amiga. Its amazing what he has done with Emu68K.

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@FuZion

I've been running 3.2 since it was released and not had any major issues. There's have been updates since then and it's up to version 3.2.3. (However I soft kick the ROM so my upgrade to physical 3.2 chips was unnecessary).

My only negative experiences with 3.2.x are:
1: There is a bug which means that graphics in Workbench requesters and colour wheels corrupt with the free version of P96, which is the RTG software, installed. It's fixed in the paid for version 3.x (which is only about £10)
2: Kickstart 3.2.3 removed the feature introduced in 3.2 which reserved 4k of memory which is necessary for the Mac emulator Shape Shifter to run (maybe other use cases, but none apply to me).This just means returning to patches like Prepareemul or similar that we're needed before 3.2.

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@FuZion

In regards to flicker fixing, custom chipsets aren't physically connected to PiStorm in any way, so same rules as "normal" apply with outputs. OCS/ECS/AGA modes will still flicker for interlaced modes and RTG modes will use a separate display (via hdmi).

The flickering isnt as bad on lcd, etc. TV's if just switching inputs to alternate between custom chip and RTG software its an option that would work for you.

There is some sort of hardware effort to be able to use both rtg and custom chipset software on same display/same input, which possibly could have some sort of flicker fixing, but I haven't followed that heavily enough to give you any real details.

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@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @FuZion fishy_fis lie to you and spread pistorm propaganda bs every other other accelerator for 68k Amiga's use real cpu and this real cpu work with native os pistorm run emulator, whole os is emulated like in uae don't waste money for pistorm use uae it is the some and almost for free

If it works like UAE, how come classic software outputs via the original Amiga chip set for audio and graphics via the original ports and not out the HDMI like an emulator you are saying it is would? Please provide your evidence for your assertions.

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@FuZion

keep original cpu for games
buy 8 MB FAST RAM for WHDLoad
use games DP PT AMOS on original hardware

anything that requires anything better than 68000 and ECS use on uae
it will be better faster cheaper

don't listen to pistorm propaganda
don't get cheated

@FuZion

This is an interesting thread. I am learing alot from these guys.

My A2000HD is in storage and I am currently using another system.

I purchased AmigaOS 3.2 to use on my A2000HD, but ended up using it with E-UAE instead. Eventually upgraded to AmigaOS 3.2.3. It works quite well, but of course it is not real Amiga hardware.


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@fishy_fis

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There is some sort of hardware effort to be able to use both rtg and custom chipset software on same display/same input, which possibly could have some sort of flicker fixing, but I haven't followed that heavily enough to give you any real details.

It's called the FrameThrower and it's now available for makers to build for the A500/A2000, with an A600 version imminent (it's currently in testing with the first units likely available to buy after this weekend). The A1200 version will be out early next year all being well.

Basically it sucks output from Denise (Lisa on the 1200) and pipes it to the Pi's camera port. The Videocore RTG driver can use that data to output the RGB signal to the same monitor as the RTG.

Audio is being considered too, so you can pipe all the user experience to your HDMI monitor.

The other solution is an HDMI dual-input switching box wired up to the Amiga parallel port and the VideoCore RTG driver signalling to the switch to flip between displays, which I and many others are using.

We're all looking forward to the FrameThrower.



And I'll just add my voice to the multitude that posits PPCAmiga1 as being a badly uninformed and intentionally misleading troll.

@ZXDunny

Yeah, ppcAmiga1 never keeps stopping his trolling.. And now that Pistorm even will get a ppc core running it is still not enough for him? Do he even use an Amiga ?

Btw: Make sure you see the Pistorm/EMu68 presentation from Amiga40 : https://youtu.be/Ng8XdKea3og

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@ZXDunny

FrameThrower. Adding that one to my list, sounds really interesting. Thank you sir.

@all

One thing most seem not to realize about ppcamiga1 is that it is because of his rantings that the users get to know what exactly piston is or isn't, he is the personification of the user who doesn't know or care, when others jump to explain why he is wrong, new users get information otherwise wouldn't have. Is it emulation? Is it like UAE? Can it use Amiga custom chips? A thread without him lack information about all that he despises, and for me that's a big plus. I value a lot his contributions in Amiga world, and you should too

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@FuZion
This is a rare post from me but I do you recall you from MAG, sadly defunct. However there is an abundance of user groups, Andy FC formed Midlands Amiga Enthusiasts which meets in Leamington and as mentioned there is a West Midlands group.
I retain my enthusiasm for the Amiga in whatever format but the aforementioned PiStorm is a relatively cheap but amazing add on for classic Amigas.
I also have an A600NG and A1200NG which are great for those who have spares if their motherboards have bit the dust, we are talking about hardware well over 30 years old.
What the A1200NG adds is modern features, hdmi, WiFi, sound etc and there is a modern web browser.
There are also plenty of pre installed systems like AGS and Pimiga.
Mechanical hard drives are a thing of the past, Compact Flash is standards.
So plenty of food for thought and welcome back to a vibrant community.

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@IanO oh wow! Of course I absolutely remember the Midlands Amiga Group.

Thank you for posting sir, and than you for your contribution to this thread.

There's clearly no single right answer to my queries here, and a bunch of potential routes through to a nicely running A1200, so I appreciate your contributions to this line.

Hopefully, one day I'll be able to attend an Amiga get together with ehwtaver I've put together.

Last time I attended a Mag, I had a sexy black brushed steel look tower around an Amiga One XE, and during boot, I had it playing snippets of Futurama episodes. Literally in parallel while the OS booted al the stuff. It was quite the fun start up actually.

FuZion.

@FuZion

Yeah, there are a lot of options now, but the direction you want to choose will solely depend on what you want to do with your system now and a little into the future.

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@ppcamiga1

For A1200's expansion options, PiStorm32 solution is like Phase 5's fat combo Blizzard PPC with BlizzardVision (Premedia 2) RTG accelerator.

PiStorm32-Emu68 with incoming EmuPPC (with more than 3600 MIPS) support would be nearly replicating the PPC CPU and RTG functions like Phase 5's fat combo Blizzard PPC with BlizzardVision (3DLabs Premedia 2) RTG accelerator.

Look in the mirror, hypocrite.

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@ppcamiga1

Never heard of WHDLoad wrapper???
Games run perfectly fine. Until you get one and use it, can't see how you can ever comment on anything.

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@FuZion

Welcome back sir! :)

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Never heard of WHDLoad wrapper???

Him or you have not heard about it?
I can't see him talking about, it..???

You find it on OS4Depot.net.

https://os4depot.net/?function=showfile&file=emulation/utility/whdload-to-uae.lha

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Games run perfectly fine. Until you get one and use it

Depends on how fast your computer is, need a fast computer to run well.
there is lot of tweaking you can do, that can help. runs best if you open a 16bit screen and the display window on it.

I always advocate for trowing AGA in the trash for NEW project, P96 is far better for computers without classic chipset, its also support more monitors, does not require you use different video outputs,
P96 stuff also don't stop your downloads, or other background work, or drop your network connection,
you don't lose you unsaved work, or force you reboot your computer after playing a game.
and often you can save your hi-score to disk, and have save games.

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