@amitv

Maybe the Illuminati are involved too?

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@TheDaddy

OS 4.1 would be perfect on fast, modern hardware.

Why porting software to an OS that runs on a low PPC?
It's not interesting at all![quote]

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@amitv

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amitv wrote: @olegil OS4 for MPC512x NOW! ?????

You know "what do we want?" and "when do we want it?"

No, it doesn't exist. But I have some hardware here it would be awesome to have OS4 on

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@thread

... this is interesting, maybe we should make a thread about that topic?

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@brotsalami

Here's my 2 cents...

Maybe Acube is working on a new powerful hardware.














Argh! I have one cent, only...

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@ChrisH

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Interesting quote! I always assumed it wasn't Firefox, because (1) we already have OWB (which cannot be far from having the majority of features we want/need), and (2) Firefox would probably be dead slow. However, that quote from Rogue seems to indicate he doesn't see those reasons a valid, so maybe it is Firefox (it WOULD be ambitious).

And also remember that having a native Firefox port would NOT bring us native official flash plugin, java etc.

If OS4 version of OWB doesn't compare well againist Firefox, I guess it would be easier to add those missing features to OWB, than port Firefox.

imho, the only "valid" reasons for Firefox port would be 1) Ability to say that "We have Firefox" (it's a "big name" you know) and 2) Being able to claim the bounty money

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@Jupp3

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As has been said before, it wouldn't have made much sense anyway, due to highly restricted nature of the OtherOS environment, no graphics acceleration etc. (YES, I know that some have done some SPU coding to make graphics "less slow", but that still is not accelerated)[/quote]

And why isn't acceleration?

if porting an opensource browser or office suite to amiga (even if it is state of the art, which oo is not, i use it on pc) should be the most ambitious project the os4 core developers can afford then i quit for good. btw, it wouldnt generate any further incom nor interest from a wider user base for them anyway. to be something of relevance it has to be new hardware and fixed os version perhaps with all bells and whistles you all want like mem protection and the like. i think its obvious. there was enough hints posted in the different threads too. nuff said.

@Leo

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Leo wrote: Quote: * Removal of “Install Other OS” feature The new PS3 system will focus on delivering games and other entertainment content, and users will not be able to install other Operating Systems to the new PS3 system.

Oh dear. One member's just seen 100s of pages of Sony propaganda rendered worthless in one sentence...

Chris

@Rogue

I know it's a secret, but can you tell us why it's a secret?

I may be wrong, but I don't remember reading an explanation before.

Chris

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@thread

Yawn...Somebody wake me up when it's finally here, whenever that is...I'm going back to sleep.

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@clebin

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clebin wrote: @Leo Quote: Leo wrote: * Removal of “Install Other OS” feature The new PS3 system will focus on delivering games and other entertainment content, and users will not be able to install other Operating Systems to the new PS3 system. Oh dear. One member's just seen 100s of pages of Sony propaganda rendered worthless in one sentence...

And who knows how much new software/modules/useful tutorials/whatever we'd have now if the time spent to write those posts would have been better invested

Varthall

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And who knows how much new software/modules/useful tutorials/whatever we'd have now if the time spent to write those posts would have been better invested

Ask Hyperion, not us: they are at the origin of these posts... We are not.

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@Leo

MikeB works for Hyperion? EDIT:

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@Birbo

>>OS 4.1 would be perfect on fast, modern hardware.

Is the SAM slow, ancient hardware?

>>Why porting software to an OS that runs on a low PPC?
It's not interesting at all!

Have you got a SAM with OS4.1 on?


I don't understand, I would very happy if we had a modern office suite!

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@TheDaddy

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Is the SAM slow, ancient hardware?

12 years ago Apple stopped using 400mhz 603e processors in favour of G3 chips. Even at that time, their fastest machines ran 604e processors. Both were slower than the 266mhz G3 they launched that year.

7 years ago, they were using the G3's successor, rated at 800mhz.

The last PowerPC machines they made were quad-core 64bit G5's rated at 2.5ghz. Even these were not as fast as the Intel machines that succeeded them.

Chris

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@clebin

>>12 years ago Apple stopped using 400mhz 603e processors in favour of G3 chips.

You are comparing Apple (multi million company and millions of users, even 12 years ago) to a tiny company like Amiga or ACube, it makes little sense.

Have you got Apple's budget?

Besides, even if 16 core PPC motherboards were available, there would still be people moaning, of that I am sure.

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@sundown

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VM-Virtual Machine, the only solution that makes sense.

Interesting thought.

Are there many VM solutions that support PPC?

@TheDaddy

Hey Daddy. I am not moaning at all.

I like OS 4.1 and SAM is still a good piece of hardware. But celebin is right: These processors are out of date.

The comparison of Apple and Hyperion or ACube isn't fair. There are many Out-Of-The-Box systems running fast, new processors. There is no need of developing new Hardware. But we have AOS 4.1 (or future versions) running on them. In the last weeks some were discussed on this forum.

I know, it's easy to write about things, we don't have to decide about. But hyperion launched the threat? Didn't they?

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@Birbo

>>These processors are out of date.

We are going back to my previous post: has anyone got a few millions to spend?

>>The comparison of Apple and Hyperion or ACube isn't fair.


I think it is fair. It was said that Apple had faster and faster PPC processors, 12 years ago. 12 years ago was 1997, does anyone know what Amiga was in 1997?

From what I remember Hyperion stated that there is NO intention of porting OS4.1 to x86. If they have plans for other faster PPC cpus then fine but I doubt it's that. I think it's either some OS4.1 improvement, some office suite port or an improved Workbench.

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