Hi All

Many thanks for all of you who have taken part, we have passed the 500 signitures barrier. Great Result!

Now, lets go for the biggie, lets get 1000 signitures. I aim to print out and post (snail mail) the petition to both parties.
So please continue to, spread the word in every language and to anyone who you know is an Amiga fan. Get them signitures going!

The petition is at http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/amiga/index.html
(please post this anywhere you can)

Btw, does anyone here know if it would be worth sending a copy to the court where the case is being heard? would it make any real difference? (just a thought)

Thank you all.

Mikey C

Last edited by Mikey_C on 03-May-2007 at 08:50 AM.

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Btw, does anyone here know if it would be worth sending a copy to the court where the case is being heard? would it make any real difference? (just a thought)

Ermm I dont think its needed, its not a "who loves you the most" type of law suit.

Anyhow Amiga have to defend their source code, tbh its all they have thats worth anything. They wish they could just "get on" but they cant.
Lets just have a war and see who wins and who falls to the ground dead, then there will be peace.... hmm I should work for the UN.

@Oli_hd

er, rather glad you don't

But to me, this isn't about who is wrong and who is right, its about two companies, with individuals trying to screw each other out of money etc, and not getting the bigger picture. i.e. its the Amiga platform, us users, who are being screwed.

For heaven's sake, can't some common sense prevail?

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@Mikey_C

This is buisness, not charity. Forget which loyalty you may have and look at the evidence submitted to the court thus far.

This IS about wrong and right. It is not a popularity contest.

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@SpaceDruid

I am not looking to apportion blame, I am looking to get the two parties to look at the small picture, the community is small enough as it is, I reckon there are about 3000 ACTUAL amiga users left worldwide. and we are having the two major (big companies - if you can call them "big") fighting it out.

For gods sake, let common sense prevail!

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@SpaceDruid

I don't think that the petition is about who's the most popular either. It's asking both companies to set aside their differences and work together. Granted, they've been trying to do that for 18 months and failed, but it's not too late for them to still settle out of court.

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@Mikey_C

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Btw, does anyone here know if it would be worth sending a copy to the court where the case is being heard? would it make any real difference? (just a thought)

No.
A good court stays (and should stay imho) unaffected and independent when it rules, regardless of the public opinion in a court case.

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@Mikey_C

Maybe sending it to Pentii Kouri o Bill McEwen could do something... but i doubt.

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Maybe sending it to Pentii Kouri o Bill McEwen could do something... but i doubt.

Proper use would come from submitting it to an attorney representing amigans.
We don't have one, right?

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@Mikey_C

You kinda burned your bridges, with me at least, I don't think anything you do will unite the community. You have done too much in the opposite direction over the years. Most of your predictions ect.. have been found to be, well for the lack of a better word, false. I would take it where you have a captive audience.

I wonder if the situation was reversed and hyperion was going after Amiga Inc, would this petition even exist?. I doubt that very much.

@Mikey_C
I filled out the prtition and comments and click the sign petition button and the next page says signature not recorded.I did this three times and no luck.What gives?
I'm using Opera 8.51 on XP Pro.

@flipper

don't know, unless someone with the same IP has you has already voted

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Last edited by Mikey_C on 04-May-2007 at 07:31 PM.

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@Mikey_C

This petition is a complete waste of time. It's so far removed from reality it's disturbing. You might as well have started a petition to get them holding hands and singing kum bah ya. These are businesses here, not children on the playground squabbling over a ball. Get real.

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@koft

what is a complete waste of time is sitting in front of a computer and whining about the situation, as I have said a dozen times, its easy to whinge and moan, but its much more effort to get off your back side and do something about it.

At least I am trying to do something about it, if you have any better ideas about how to get something done that will make Amiga inc and Hyperion re-consider this foolhardy course of action, please tell everyone.

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@Mikey_C

I'm with koft on the prognosis of the likely outcome of your efforts.

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At least I am trying to do something about it, if you have any better ideas about how to get something done that will make Amiga inc and Hyperion re-consider this foolhardy course of action, please tell everyone.

Well, good point. Unfortunately the only things that move corporations are judges with big sticks or millionaires with big carrots. I'm afraid that with OS4 you just have to wait and hope. Nothing more.

The irony is that the only Amiga platform that could be influenced by you, me and everyone is AROS. A platform you have chosen to airbrush from history over at the Amigans.
I hope you reconsider and bring all the Amiga news to the Amigans. If OS4 survives, AROS and MOS will be important sources of applications and competition for it.

@Colin_Camper

Nope, sorry, Amigans will for now, remain focused primarily on AmigaOS4 only, for other news people can go to plenty of other AROS and MOS specific sites to get their fix.

AmigaOS4 is my priority right now, I want this situation resolved before anything else is tackled.

Last edited by Mikey_C on 04-May-2007 at 08:21 PM.

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@Mikey_C
No, it wouldn't do more than get a chuckle out of anyone involved in the court.

If people want to sign it, I have zero issues with that.

However...this is about business. Not sanity, not about doing the right thing (although from what we've seen so far from AInc's court paperwork, even the meaning of that could be questioned, sadly), nor about 'wouldn't it be nice if?'.

That means it's about business, and business is about money, period. AInc has barely managed to acknowledge the 'community' exists in the first place, while Hyperion has mostly disappeared in recent months entirely. I wouldn't expect either of them to do more than get a wry chuckle out of this petition, even moreso if it's not in their interest financially.

So, good luck, but I see this _exactly_ the same as 'doing nothing' in this case, for the (lack of) effect it will have.

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@wegster

In a business, it is all about customers.

The petition combines and presents the customers opinion. In this case, I believe it represents a large amount of customers, if not most of them concerning OS 4

You might be right that it will have no effect, but at least I will be finally able to leave the Amiga without looking back.

Up until the lawsuit, I would have bought anything with OS 4. Now I won't go near it beacause of the lawsuit.

Kirka


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