Interesting result from Amiganews.it (IkirSector)

http://amiga.ikirsector.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14756&start=45

People wants to join the forces.

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@AmigaBlitter

Votes "Yes" 47% circa
No 8%
3% thinks that Amiga OS is still at 3.9

The other thinks that the Ikir's avatar causes nightmare or queasiness (disgust)
Someone thinks that Ikir's avatar rocks.

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@AmigaBlitter

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3% thinks that Amiga OS is still at 3.9

I don't understand it like this. I understand that 3% think AmigaOS 4 is not AmigaOS.

This is so strange...

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@elwood

Philippe, 3% thinks that the last "real" AmigaOS was the 3.9
They don't consider any AmigaOS or MOS or AROS a next gen Amiga.
Yes, you're right

Last edited by AmigaBlitter on 27-Jul-2011 at 03:06 PM.

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@AmigaBlitter

The OS3 crowd is a lot bigger on other forums.

Last edited by tommywright on 27-Jul-2011 at 05:20 PM.

@Samurai_Crow

I know, i know.

Of course the team you belong, is part of the forces

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@AmigaBlitter

It won't ever happen part IV.

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@AmigaBlitter

Nice. Now we just need Hyperion, MOS and AROS teams together ))

The sad history of PPC Amiga transition was summed during the court case. Hope future can only be better, as there is much to "catch up" ...

Again, what would be result? New OS running MOS, AROS and OS 4 software?
AmigaOS 4.x with some AROS and MOS features where they are faster and better?

It`s not easy to see it, but some joint work (more developers, more apps, faster OS advancement) would be nice. Including Amiga Inc royalty for the name if needed.

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@AmigaBlitter

Co-operation will never happen while one OS costs £600 more to use than another.

Those prices require you to distance yourself from everyone else. Being better is less valuable than being different.

Chris

The Amiga community should join as one to survive and thrive to great platform success. I mean, it doesn't mean that the innovations created in their own spaces to give way to their competing brethren.

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What about someone give some ideas? any proposal?

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@elwood

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Quote: 3% thinks that Amiga OS is still at 3.9 I don't understand it like this. I understand that 3% think AmigaOS 4 is not AmigaOS.

I don't understand it either. I have always considered 3.1 the last "real". Last one from Commodore. (of course it doesn't have that many differences to 3.0)

@thread

Don't want to sound to pushy, but would be nice to have an opinion from hyperion.

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@Jupp3

I always considered AmigaOS 0.9 Beta the last "real" one, because after that, the company was bought from Commodore, and we all know where it ended..

BTW 3.1 was not from commodore but from VillageTronic wasn't it?

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@Jupp3

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Jupp3 wrote: @elwood Quote: [quote]3% thinks that Amiga OS is still at 3.9 I don't understand it like this. I understand that 3% think AmigaOS 4 is not AmigaOS.

I don't understand it either. I have always considered 3.1 the last "real". Last one from Commodore. (of course it doesn't have that many differences to 3.0)[/quote]

While attachment to classic line of Amigas with OCS/ECS/AGA is understandable, as it was the "golden age" of Amiga, such attitude isn`t much true, reliable and even in user experience related. In these terms existance of MOS 1.x and OS 4.x for Classics with PPC is good, as it makes the connection more visible.

Amiga OS4 is ported OS 3.1 to PPC with add ons and progress over time, even OS 3.5 and OS 3.9 are OS 3.1+similarly 3rd party updates. MOS has been built from scratch as PPC standalone on experience of AmigaOS (and some levels of compatibility) and similarly AROS was open source 3.x with add-ons. Only thing that had to be left was 68k and custom chipset, because they were way to obsolete and every company since late Commodore, Escom etc. was looking to find way forward.

Best way to see progress done is to boot plain vanilla OS 3.0 without any updates
and check the difference "in what is in the box" with any of 3. A lot of hardwork, upgrades and knowledge was put to it to be nulled.

Only problem is that we have "3 ways out" instead of one.

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@clebin

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clebin wrote: Co-operation will never happen while one OS costs £600 more to use than another.

Well, yes. BUT....that also includes blueprints to construct your own Light Sabre.

Do the others?

Why should companies collaborate, when their own users don't do that first?

Pushing three different parties to a common gathering require that every one brings its strenghts but also that every one trashes part of its history from a day to another. It will simply not happen, and it's not what AmigaOS, MorphOS and AROS users want.

As I have always said, the most likely thing that can happen, is that single developers try to support more than their favourite Amiga flavour and that common libraries and frameworks are written. Hollywood is a good example in the right direction: write once, compile many, and everyone enjoys.

AROS is bringing to the community many different technologies that can easily ported, adapted and standardized to ALL the Amiga operating systems. Just think to Poseidon, Gallium and Zune. Their sources are open: do you see someone else taking advantage of them?

@paolone

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It will simply not happen, and it's not what AmigaOS, MorphOS and AROS users want.

Could you, please, let the users say what they want?

I've presented a poll result. How can you say the contrary?

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@paolone

Hoolywood is great example as well as all other software that is avail for all "flavours".

Well, major advantage for MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 users would be larger team, faster OS advance, avaialiability for more hardware and one OS at one price (even if its higher then current OS 4 or MOS price), as well as more focus of developers -> less "fragmentation". To MOS it would give "official name" to OS4 some of the advancements MOS has done, as longer in development. There is not much to loose, beside egos and "campings".

Yes, AROS components should be used as common ground too.

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