Hello all!

I'm relatively new to the whole amiga scape. It fascinates me that such a low power chip like the 68k's could do all that they did and how active the scene still is. I just don't know where to start for myself!

I'm only 22, and the only experience I have had with the physical hardware was when I was a kid and the library in my little town had a few that people could use. Not many knew how and when I toyed with it I really screwed up the workbench mainscreen (I think I was 4?). At the moment I can't pump money into an A1200 off amigakit so I have Aros to fiddle with. I have a few PPC macs, but again no money, so all I can do is toy with MorphOS. Aros is really my only option.

For the moment I'm playing with the dev software provided to me by the creator of Aros to see if I can work on the network stack and get some wifi cards working, then I plan to tackle GPU compatibility. I haven't gotten very far with it as I am still learning how everything goes together. But... Thats not as enjoyable of an experience as actually USING it, y'know?

I watch a lot of Dan Woods' videos on youtube and when he sets up a new system he themes it, gets some fancy animation stuff on his desktop.... How do I do that? I'm a wierd one where I want to actually have an Amiga as a daily, Aros or otherwise. I'd even get a powerbook (My ibook is my cherished possession but it can't see HDD's anymore and I don't know why ;A;) and save up to buy Morph to have something I can take with me and have net access with (even if its just IRC ;) ).

Is there a good place for a freshie like me to start?

@dommer416

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For the moment I'm playing with the dev software provided to me by the creator of Aros

by whom? aros is a community effort..

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to see if I can work on the network stack and get some wifi cards working

good idea. you might want to join/register on aros dev-ml:
http://aros.sourceforge.net/contact.php
and requst some arite acces to repository, if you intend to commit.

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I'm a wierd one where I want to actually have an Amiga as a daily

simply use winuae or fs-uae on whatever computer system you have for the time being. you can also use the amiga-m68k version of aros there if you prefer or dont want to buy the original system. its easy to set up and fast to use.

@dommer416

AROS has its own dedicated forum www.aros-exec.org, nice place to ask, if you don´t find answers here.

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I haven't gotten very far with it as I am still learning how everything goes together.

Drivers are always problem with non-mainstream OSs, eg. most of my PC components aren´t supported and I rather use AROS in virtual machine.

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it, gets some fancy animation stuff on his desktop....

Probably CANDI, but this one requires AmigaOS 4 (and expensive hardware).

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I'd even get a powerbook

Good choice for MorphOS, note only ATI GPU models are supported.

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Is there a good place for a freshie like me to start?

As wava wrote, WinUAE may be ideal starting point for "classic" experience. However, you will need ROM and other system files (or use AROS68k which is not yet ready for prime-time).


And of course...

Welcome!

@wawa

"By whom?"

Paolone from the Aros-EXEC forums :3

>Win-UAE

I've thought about it. I can actually get AOS 3.8 running on my PSP if I really wanted to but I don't think it would be very useable :P maybe if I can get a laptop to actually work XD

EDIT: Sorry I'm very tired. Icaros, the Aros fork. Thats what I meant.

Last edited by dommer416 on 05-Jun-2017 at 05:20 PM.

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: Welcome!

:3 Thanks.

I'm aware of the driver issues but I even get lost in the file manager sometimes XD I'm so used to the linux file structure.

@dommer416

AmigaOS wiki has plenty of reference material for study (mostly for OS4, but not all is updated):

http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmigaOS_Manual:_AmigaDOS

@pavlor

Bookmarked!! Thanks! I would have never even found that on my own.

@pavlor

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or use AROS68k which is not yet ready for prime-time

wouldnt say that. in uae most remaining problems apparent on actual amiga hardware do not show. its fast (with jit)), stable, fairly compatible. one can work with applications for hours with no problem (i did so with hollywood, dopus, hd-rec, (this still needs a small fix, i should convince toni to commit of finish it finally))..

@dommer416

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Paolone EDIT: Sorry I'm very tired. Icaros, the Aros fork. Thats what I meant.

ah, paolo, icaros is a legit distro, not a fork, id say.

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I've thought about it. I can actually get AOS 3.8 running on my PSP if I really wanted to but I don't think it would be very useable :P maybe if I can get a laptop to actually work XD

you mean 3.9? psp, whichever psp it is, its ppc hardware, right? probably too weak, probably no jit.

x86 notebook would do. for playing with windows/winuae. for development you might consider linux native and fs-uae perhaps. if looking at aros development environment i personally recommend lubuntu.

@wawa

PSP Is MIPS :P I can do it on UAE and theres a runtime environment I'm scared to try because supposedly it can frag the system like crazy....

I'm a linux user :P I use Arch, Antergos specifically, for all my work.

@pavlor

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@dommer416 AmigaOS wiki has plenty of reference material for study (mostly for OS4, but not all is updated): http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmigaOS_Manual:_AmigaDOS

if you need some 3.x reference:
http://amigadev.elowar.com/

some stuff here:
http://amiga.sourceforge.net/amigadevhelp/

docs on aros :
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros

Last edited by wawa on 05-Jun-2017 at 06:04 PM.

@dommer416

You develop under AmigaOS, there lots of development tools, on amimet,

For c coding you might pick VBCC.

http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vbcc/index.php?view=binaries

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It fascinates me that such a low power chip like the 68k's could do all that they did and how active the scene still is. I just don't know where to start for myself!

If you won to learn write machine code, VBCC comes good assembler as well, good thing about this that pick any text editor.

If you use AsmPRO you have code under AmigaOS3.x,

Download NDK3.9 and NDK3.1, NDK3.1 is easier to work with your going to write assembler, NDK3,9 is best you like program C code.

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 05-Jun-2017 at 06:54 PM.

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@dommer416

Since you're from western earth..

Come to Sacramento Amiga Computer club (SACC.org)

We'll fix you up with a cheap classic 500/2000 machine.

@SACC-dude

Lol neat thx.