few days ago I read post of some nice person cheated by usuall trolls about "switch to pc".
it will not work.

there will be no new developers making software for Amiga like solutions
if Amiga like solutions will be still win98 level.
for people less than 50 years old it is simply too weird.

the one and only way to get new people is made Amiga like solutions
decent no more than 15 years behind rest of world.

from professional developer point of view it is simple what to do.
everything below gui and graphics should be cut off and replaced by unix.
like Apple do it in year 2001.

key to success is cooperation.
no attacks on powerpc should be allowed.

trolls like szulc, szonwejs, karlos, di mauro, wolftothemon, v8, lou, hammer etc
should hard work on mui clone (zune) until it will be compatible
when it will be done next should be made nice decent gui builder for mui
when it will be done port amiga gui and graphics to unix
when it will be done port decent webbrowser, mplayer, pdf reader
when it will be done some new nice exclusive office software for it
ofcourse with support for docx xlsx
when it will be done made some nice exclusive software for 2d and 3d graphics

the only way forward is hard work not trolling

oh boy! xD

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Problem is united around what? Well defined sw and hw goal.
Plus soo much bad blood that brings inablity to united, starting with Amiga Inc decision
not to use MorphOS 1/2 but let Hyperion port OS3 to PPC, until today/

Agreed on software goals, but MUI4 is now open source? and could be ported to AROS? Zune needs improvement.

PDF reader exist in quite good shape on OS, MOS and PPC, I agree with rest of sw goals

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@ppcamiga1

Stop trolling - says the apparent "professional developer" whose only activity on AW.net is, well, guess, TROLLING.


I ask you once again:

KINDLY PLEASE GET THE FUCK OFF ME

I really ask myself, does this forum not have any moderators?
In any other forum, people like ppcamiga1 would be permanent banned after insulting other users directly.

@ppcamiga1

There is no PPC roadmap from the remaining IP holders. Power chips from IBM are too expensive. We don't have an FPGA Apollo team for PPC. This means game over.

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@michalsc

I don't know why you waste your valuable time even responding to it, to be honest.

@ppcspamiga

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from professional developer point of view it is simple what to do. everything below gui and graphics should be cut off and replaced by unix. like Apple do it in year 2001.

Go and do it then. As a professional I'm sure you'll only need about 2 more weeks.

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szulc time is not valuable. szulc projects are worth nothing craps.
@szulc stop trolling start working on mui.

@Karlos

It is obvious that people want to switch from ppc should work
on amiga solutions on x86 and/or arm.
I may wrote them what to do. I also may manage their work.

@ppcamiga1

Literally nobody, real or even imaginary is going to help you do squat. If you want it, do it yourself.

The only skill you have is (re)posting complete garbage that for some reason manages to get enough responses to that the site doesn't seem completely moribund.

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The only skill you have is (re)posting complete garbage that for some reason manages to get enough responses to that the site doesn't seem completely moribund.

Can you imagine if we had just a few more ppcamiga1s? Amiga world would be back to the glory days!! ^^

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You mentioned something about there not being enough attacks on PPC?
Sorry, I've been busy, but hopefully the following will validate your existence:

- That last run of Sam460LE 1.14 Ghz, which Acube and A-EON hoped would both sell out, and fill the void of the delayed A1222, did not in fact sell out. Acube have plenty left at the "reasonable" €889.38.
Or you could spend €799.99 on a PS 5 Pro and have the world's best gaming console. Or entry level Apple M2 Mac mini, handheld gaming PC from ASUS or Valve, your choice from a wide selection of laptops, decent gaming PC, a cluster of Raspberry Pi 5 boards, almost anything instead of this single-core, 32-bit, 1.1GHz "hobby" board.

- If the SAM460 LE embarrassment wasn't enough, there a still plenty of the no-FPU A1222 for sale. But when even die-hard PPC defenders aren't buying them, then you know PPC is dead.

- Speaking of A1222, the PPC Open Laptop project had to be put on hold because one of their resources was needed on fixing issues with A1222 (Source: https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/). They are back to fundraising, and they're just under 50% of their €16,000.00 goal with 11 days to go. PPC is not looking very alive.

- Fewer and fewer Linux distributions support PowerPC each year, and support for ARM in the Linux community is growing rapidly.

- In fact, emulation of PPC is more alive and active than work being done on physical PPC hardware.

I hope that with all the above I have reached my PPC attacking quota.

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ppcamiga1 wrote: few days ago I read post of some nice person cheated by usuall trolls about "switch to pc". it will not work. there will be no new developers making software for Amiga like solutions if Amiga like solutions will be still win98 level. for people less than 50 years old it is simply too weird. the one and only way to get new people is made Amiga like solutions decent no more than 15 years behind rest of world. from professional developer point of view it is simple what to do. everything below gui and graphics should be cut off and replaced by unix. like Apple do it in year 2001.

Which, translated, means: the Amiga platform, in all its "variants", is crap, and nobody should use it.
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key to success is cooperation.

I fully agree. That's why we all be united:


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no attacks on powerpc should be allowed.

I fully agree on this: beating corpses is sacrilege!

As I've said before, we should be all unite to bury the PowerPCs, since they are dead.
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trolls like szulc, szonwejs, karlos, di mauro, wolftothemon, v8, lou, hammer etc should hard work on mui clone (zune) until it will be compatible when it will be done next should be made nice decent gui builder for mui when it will be done port amiga gui and graphics to unix when it will be done port decent webbrowser, mplayer, pdf reader when it will be done some new nice exclusive office software for it ofcourse with support for docx xlsx when it will be done made some nice exclusive software for 2d and 3d graphics

PARROT MODE ON. Then:

I reveal you another secret: YOU are the only one here which put it as The goal to have.

I reveal you also another secret: AROS is open source, so anyone can get the source and contribute.

Now, I reveal you elementary logic: since YOU are the only one interested on the above, then YOU can pick AROS' sources and add what YOU like.
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the only way forward is hard work not trolling

I fully agree on this, and see above: you can start now and do what YOU need.

In the meanwhile, I'm busy helping on putting PowerPCs on the right place:

@michalsc

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michalsc wrote: @ppcamiga1 Stop trolling - says the apparent "professional developer" whose only activity on AW.net is, well, guess, TROLLING. I ask you once again: KINDLY PLEASE GET THE FUCK OFF ME

You take it too seriously, Michal!

The only way to get rid of such crabs it to make fun of them on the things that they love too much...

@ppcamiga1

you are talking about unity and insulting people

you not even understand what unity means, boy

and what are your "contributions"? And you always claim to be a professional developer but what do you do? What amiga software have you developed?

I do not understand your obsession about MUI. It was the standard for old obsolete amiga software and is still used partly, expecially on MorphOS. But I tell you a secret... nobody outside of this bubble cares about old amiga software. A old amiga GUI toolkit makes no difference.

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no attacks on powerpc should be allowed.

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Bah. Clicked the link when I saw "part 1005" in the topic.

I really thought this was going to be "part 1005" of AmigaBlitter's series of threads about Commodore and Amiga reuniting. And sadly, I'm under contract to reply "no" in each of those threads.

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what i see here is that
trolls like szulc, szonwejs, karlos, di mauro, wolftothemon, v8, lou, hammer matthay etc
still trolling instead of hard working on something amiga like usable on pc.
nobody need pistorm amu68 aros x86 and other shits like that
szulc and other trolls you get what to do start working
the only way forward is hard work not trolling

@ppcamiga1

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nobody need pistorm amu68 aros x86 and other shits like that

Don't tell us what we need! If you have a usable solution to a something you need to do on the PC then use a PC. Stop demanding our developers taylor the Amiga to your tastes and needs! It is what it is at this point and the AmigaOne project is a dead-end and has been for some time! The other products you are rude about are developed in people's free time and you have no right to discourage them and pour scorn on their efforts when your own little PPC cult has drunk its Kool Aid!

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trolls like szulc, szonwejs, karlos, di mauro, wolftothemon, v8, lou, hammer matthay etc still trolling instead of hard working on something amiga like usable on pc.

You really really need to improve your communication skills man, insulting people is not exactly the way to convince them to stay "united" as you profess from the beginning of the thread

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szulc and other trolls you get what to do start working the only way forward is hard work not trolling

And again insulting people is probably the quickest way to NOT make them do whatever you want them do.

As someone else recommend you, stop blabbering and start coding something you need and you think is essential for whatever is your vision of modern Amiga or pay someone to do it for you. Asking someone to do what you want in their free time should be done in a more polite way than yours.