@Mobileconnect

Real 3D
Final Writer
Photogenics
Imagevision
xCad

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A-Eon X5000/40

@Mobileconnect

Real 3D
Final Writer
Photogenics
Imagevision
xCad

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Swisso Bournemouth A1XEG4 1.3Ghz 7457 CPU

A-Eon X5000/40

@DiscreetFX

Perry Kivolowitz gave all ASDG source code to Trevor in order to open source them, this never happened. Maybe someone can ask Perry a copy and do it.
Come on Trevor tell us the reason why…

@kamelito

Maybe Perry found it after I talked with him. But he stated it was lost.

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A lot of the software suggested is already available in updated form for the A600GS and A1200NG such as:

Personal Paint v7.4 (updated 2024)
OctaMED v8 (updated 2025)
Final Writer v7.2 (updated 2025)
Dopus v4 (updated 2024)
YAM v2.10 (updated 2025)

These titles will continue to be developed further.

We have a few other applications in development at the moment ready for release on the our new platforms. As more and more users start using these machines, it enables us to improve older titles and bring them back to life. We have lots of prospective project ideas.

We have been encouraged and motivated by the enthusiastic feedback of the new A600GS/A1200NG users. It has been a positive driver for us to push forward with more software development. Very refreshing compared from what we have experienced before.

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@amigakit

Is a suitable web browser in the works? I’m just curious.

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@Rob

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Rob wrote: Very forward thinking of them to add support for two operating systems that didn't exist at the time, and a third that doesn't even exist today.

MovieShop dependent on VlabMotion hardware addon when CPU power reached usable MPEG2 NLE.

Solution like MovieShop / VlabMotion combination died when larger economics of scale gaming video cards gained video codec hardware acceleration and increased CPU compute power.

For Amiga's professional video niche, MovieShop mirrors many dead-end Amiga productivity software solutions due to the boat anchor with legacy hardware i.e. they don't work with PCI/AGP/PCIe based AmigaOne without Zorro II/III slots, let alone wedge 68K Amigas (with powerful CPU acceleration) without Zorro II/III slots.

Adobe (Creative Suite) and AVID (Media Composer) have leveraged larger economies of scale
and continuous evolving CPUs and gaming GPUs and they are still alive today.

Adobe Creative Suite 68K can run ShapeShifter/MacOS 68K and exploit large CPU boost from PiStorm32-CM4-Emu68.

Adobe Creative Suite (68k)'s software list
- Acrobat 3.0
- Adobe Acrobat PDF Print v1
- Adobe Premiere 4.0
- Adobe Audition 1.0
- Adobe Fetch
- Adobe HomePublisher 2
- Adobe PageMaker 6.0
- Adobe PageMill 2.0
- Adobe PhotoDeluxe 2.0
- Adobe Dimensions 2
- Adobe TextureMaker 1.0
- Macromedia Flash 2
- Photoshop 4.0

PowerPC AmigaOnes can run MacOnLinux to run Mac's PowerPC era productivity software, but they are Macintosh software and they ultimately benefit the Macintosh platform.

My current multimedia productivity suite is with Corel camp.

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@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: My current multimedia productivity suite is with Corel camp.

So you can't think of any classic Amiga productivity software you want brought back?

Me neither. I'm not even running the latest versions of classic Amiga productivity software as it is (apart from IBrowse, and that's only because earlier versions no longer work on the internet).

When I want to be productive I use a PC - specifically my Dell Dimension 5150 with Windows XP (the best OS for productivity IMO). My Amigas are for having retro fun on, and I prefer to use the same programs I had back in the 90's.

But that's just me. 'Bringing back' classic Amiga productivity software is a great idea. I'm actually doing it with a reassembler that I hope to publish soon.

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@bhabbott

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So you can't think of any classic Amiga productivity software you want brought back?

Did you miss my MovieShop comments?

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@Swisso
@Mobileconnect

xcad or MaxonCAD or any other good CAD software!

@Mobileconnect

Wildfire

@Mobileconnect

Imagine 3D
StormC4
FinalWriter
ArtEffect

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@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: Did you miss my MovieShop comments?

Sorry, I must have missed the part where you said you want Movieshop brought back to classic Amigas.

A friend of mine had a Draco which he used for commercial video production. I don't remember much about it though. I can't find much info on Movieshop either. A version that didn't need the video capture/playback hardware could be interesting to play around with. Might even be useful!

@Mobileconnect

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AmigaKit bought the rights to OctaMed and re-released it with new features. Good on them for that. ImageFX is still around.

Technically it was A-EON, they also bought the rights to Amiga versions of Aladdin4D.

Like yourself and many others, I'd like to see Photogenics to return, if only as a bug fix version that's 100% stable.

Another favourite is Cinema4D. I'd be happy with the final Amiga version gaining hardware 3D support for the editing windows.

I was going to mention World Construction kit but after doing a little search I found that the software is available for free, and it's also open source now. There were even a new release in 2024 which fixed various bugs and also includes AROS executable.

https://3dnature.com/downloads/legacy-software/
https://github.com/AlphaPixel/3DNature/tree/master/Amiga
https://aminet.net/package/gfx/3d/wcs#contents

Just needs the manual to be made available.

@Mobileconnect

None.

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@bhabbott

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Sorry, I must have missed the part where you said you want Movieshop brought back to classic Amigas. A friend of mine had a Draco which he used for commercial video production. I don't remember much about it though. I can't find much info on Movieshop either. A version that didn't need the video capture/playback hardware could be interesting to play around with. Might even be useful!

I sold my A3000 in 1996 to my Dad's Sydney CBD contacts with a small TV production company.

My use case for video NLE when I needed it for non-profit org work (similar to my non-profit org's early MIDI use case in the early 1990s, hence Deluxe Music 2 use case) in the early 2000s. My A3000 was mostly used for games, with productivity as a secondary. Another poster already mentioned Deluxe Music 2 in this topic. I prefer Deluxe Music 2's NextStep-inspired Workbench 2.x GUI design over Bars and Pipes's custom GUI.

I used my +1 Ghz K7 Athlon XP /GeForce 4 Ti ViVO(MPEG2 acceleration, video-in, video-out, S-Video-in, S-Video out )/nForce 2+FireWire-equipped gaming PC due to its high multimedia performance for its time.

Notice that Amiga's good gaming performance led to a video-related work use case.

Amiga's claim on video productivity for the masses was eclipsed by social media video production. Modern PC GPU vendors make a big deal about AV1 and H.265 use case for social media video production, not just gaming.

This is why I mentioned MovieShop NLE.

Draco's approach missed Amiga's original gaming and video production synergy. I wonder who follows the original Amiga ideology?

http://obligement.free.fr/articles/movieshop42.php
MovieShop 4.2 overview in French. It looks reasonable from the surface.

My other Amiga productive software usage is IntroCAD 2.0, XCAD 2000, Scala 500, and Cando, but these are for school-related work. My Dad had an AutoCAD license (and copy protection dongle) on the PC from work, but he is retired from work. MS PowerPoint covers the Scala 500 use case. For the Cando use case, I'm aware of Hollywood from Airsoft Softwair. I use Delphi 12 Athens and Visual Studio Pro 2022.

I have used Sweet Home 3D when planning my home renovation. https://www.sweethome3d.com/
Sweet Home 3D needs Java VM middleware and 3D acceleration.

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@Mobileconnect

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AmigaKit bought the rights to OctaMed and re-released it with new features

Atm, OctaMed v8 is exclusive to Amikit's Amibench platform. AROS ELF 68K apps don't run on C= AmigaOS 3.1 68K nor on AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2 (68K/PPC ELF).

https://www.inutilis.com/portfolio/horny-midi-sequencer/
Horny (name is questionable) MIDI Sequencer has modernish MIDI Sequencer GUI design when compared to OctaMed Sound Studio.

Horny MIDI Sequencer's development was cancel due to AmigaOS 4.1 PPC platform's growth is very slow and very small market.

Horny MIDI Sequencer was available for C= AmigaOS3.x 68K before low-cost PiStorm-Emu68 acceleration. AmigaOS 3.x/4.x lacks a good software MIDI synthesizer (when compared to other platforms), and I'm aware of GMPlay and CAMD virtual device wedge.

I use Cakewalk by Bandlab.

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@DiscreetFX

He proposed to open source ASDG codes in a recorded video in front of lots of Amiga users, would you do that if you knew it was lost? No, you said things like that because you know where they are. Maybe Trevor changed his mind? Since nobody talk we can only hypothesize sadly.

@Mobileconnect

Photogenics was a quite novel software which would greatly benefit from current hardware advancements!

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@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: @Mobileconnect Quote: AmigaKit bought the rights to OctaMed and re-released it with new features Atm, OctaMed v8 is exclusive to Amikit's Amibench platform. AROS ELF 68K apps don't run on C= AmigaOS 3.1 68K nor on AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2 (68K/PPC ELF). https://www.inutilis.com/portfolio/horny-midi-sequencer/ Horny (name is questionable) MIDI Sequencer has modernish MIDI Sequencer GUI design when compared to OctaMed Sound Studio. Horny MIDI Sequencer's development was cancel due to AmigaOS 4.1 PPC platform's growth is very slow and very small market. Horny MIDI Sequencer was available for C= AmigaOS3.x 68K before low-cost PiStorm-Emu68 acceleration. AmigaOS 3.x/4.x lacks a good software MIDI synthesizer (when compared to other platforms), and I'm aware of GMPlay and CAMD virtual device wedge. I use Cakewalk by Bandlab.

On the audio/MIDI front, Bars and Pipes, Octamed (V8 68k OS3.2 version) and Dr T's MIDI sequencer.

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