Hi!

I deleted all non-noteplayer replayers and deleted all genies except for the AHI genie.
This way Delitracker doesn't crash under AOS4 anymore, but it plays all tunes too fast.

Has anyone managed to use Delitracker successfully under AOS4?

I've written Martin Blom and asked him about it, but i thought I'd ask here aswell.

It would be very nice to have it running. The current mod players are way to basic for me, and Deli supports lots of cool formats.

EDIT: Doohh... it wasn't the Delitracker sources that was released, it is the EaglePlayer sources.

Has anyone managed to get EaglePlayer to work under AOS4? Does it even work with AHI?
I will have a closer look at it tomorrow, maybe someone with some ASM skills could take a look at the EaglePlayer sources? I don't know how EaglePlayer works, i hope it won't require rewrites of all plugins...

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It's the timing in Deliplayer that's off - it hasn't got anything to do with AHI.

I tried to get it working with that little hack that emulated an old sound card on OS4 (can't remember the name just now), but I didn't get it working.

@Trezzer

hmmm.... i suspected that, but i hoped that it wouldn't be deli itself.
i guess it wouldn't be too hard to fix for someone with a bit of ASM knowledge?…..

arrgh, i am SURE i've seen the sources of delitracker somewhere... but I can't find them ATM..

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I think its to do with the eclock value being different in OS4 on the A1. I suspect if someone patched the code that read the eclock value, it would work fine.

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i am SURE the sources are there somewhere... on sourceforge i thought, but i coulnd't find them... i will continue my quest though....

hmm... xeron, you are a competent asm coder nudge nudge... :P

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spotUP wrote: @xeron i am SURE the sources are there somewhere... on sourceforge i thought, but i coulnd't find them... i will continue my quest though.... hmm... xeron, you are a competent asm coder nudge nudge... :P

Is this source code the one that you look for?

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nope ... that's a delitracker emulator for other systems.
i am talking about the amiga native sources.

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The people behind www.deliplayer.com should have it. Try to ask them.

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Are you talking about Nallepuh?

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maestix i think?

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Are you taliing about Nallepuh?

Or could it be The Maestrix?


@spotUp
There is also native program (based on UAE's sound emulation, IIRC) that uses the DeliPlayers: a bit too messy for my tastes, but it could be handy for you.

saimo

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yes, that's the one i meant, but, has anyone gotten deli to work nicely that way?... how? and where to get all needed files?

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I did not try DeliTracker, but it does allow to get OctaMED Soundstudio to play!
As to where to get it... I can't remember where I got it from, and the guide does not give any URL. Maybe you should the contact the author: Damien Stewart, hypex () rabbit com au.

saimo

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it's on aminet. the maestrix.

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please read my firtst post again, i've edited it as i found out some stuff ....

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OK, i just checked out EaglePlayer. It runs nicely, the plugins aswell it seems. It's built the same way DeliTracker is, it uses engines/genies for playback, so writing an AHI engine should work. There's already an engine for tocatta. And the sources are available, so I believe this is our best shot on having a good mod player on AOS4 with support for lots and lots of formats.

Anyone intrested in taking this on? I don't have the skills, if I had, i'd be on it right now. :(

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The sources are available here;

http://www.aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/play/Eagleplayer2.04-Sources.zip

maybe some of the engines could be modified quite easilly to use AHI?

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@xeron

so... why is the eclock value different in AOS4?

quotes from irc;

spotUP: what is eclock?

itix: i dont really know for sure :P
i just know it exists and some programs use it. it is related to timer.device management. it was set differently in older morphos versions too and delitracker played too fast it is because morphos and amigaos are using cpu clock instead of cia timer so they need different eclock value to work correctly later on new unit was added to morphos and old eclock unit emulates cia behaviour.

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so... why is the eclock value different in AOS4? It was at first in MOS too, but they changed it to be the same, i think this should be done to aos4 aswell to raise the compatibility.

Maybe it breaks other areas of the system if it is incorrect system wide?
Perhaps there is a nicer way to do it, a bit like the compatibility prefs we
already have in OS4 for JIT/DOS (ie: it is only adjusted for certain 68k
programs)?

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@spotUP

I'm not a programmer, so don't slap me around if I don't explain this correctly. As far as I understand it's because the 68k Amigas ran with a certain bus frequency and the new ones has a faster one - and if you ask for the frequency in the wrong way from eclock, you get one that's much higher because it IS much higher on an A1 (and you also get a higher resolution this way). But there's also a way to get a proper read-out (which is what you should use on OS4 for maximum compatibility). Apparently the method used in Deliplayer wasn't entirely OS-legal / unsupported and thus it broke.

Like Itix says it used to be the same in MOS, but it was changed - whether it was in a nice way or a hack I don't know, but I don't think it will change in OS4 - so unless someone can somehow do a "nano-UAE" that takes care of delivering the frequencies that the old Amigas use instead of the real eclock, we need players that use eclock correctly.

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