@Al4

Yes, probably.

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Probably Pegasos 2 G4 1Ghz 1GB DDR-system, ATI Radeon 9250, ESI@Juli PCi-soundcard, all running
AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
Amiga! Fingers crossed!

I think that mentioning "Amiga OS 5" is only a way to say that it is possible, if future need it, that they'll develop the next OS for Amiga if evolution need this ...
Like krosoft release Windows 7 after Windows VISTA ( 6 ) and Windows XP ...

@Al4

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Al4 wrote: Who owns the Amiga boing ball? Hyperion or Amiga Inc?

Hyperion owns the ball and AI the air.

@Srbin
Yes, you call them

In reference to the actual question, OS5 was simply mentioned as though to say that Hyperion now own Amiga OS and can produce subsequent versions, the logical name for a successor to OS4.x being OS5.

@Templario

as fare as i know amiga aa2 is infact whot amiga inc call "five" not amiga os 5 but five..
it was revield at a computer show show that amiga os 5 was aa2, bill told the jurnalist that there had to change the name becuse of an microsoft deal.,.


i will too look forward to see whot comes out of the mouth from amiga inc.


and to hyperionmp is"aa2" going to be intergrated in amiga os 4,2 or how is the roadmap now ????

@retro

cant wait for the next update ether, i will expect as an minumum that there will be more memory protection, and maby even kernel protection

@RodTerl

A desktop smarter than it's user? Wow, like an IQ of 70 is hard to emulate

Seems like the average computer user of today would have trouble opening doors if they hadn't had 30 years of training...

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@fishy_fis

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In reference to the actual question, OS5 was simply mentioned as though to say that Hyperion now own Amiga OS and can produce subsequent versions, the logical name for a successor to OS4.x being OS5.

Mathematically and logically yes, however, Amiga have tarnished this logical progression somewhat by inventing this AmigaOS5 idea which is a completely different system. It isn't out yet, it's only a name, but it kinda stuffs up what the next version of AmigaOS could have been.

For the intelligence thing, got the idea from trying to work out just what neural nets are supposed to be doing with the data.. so now I got the data algorithm, but dont need to emulate a complex neuron directly, only its effects. Of course, a silicon, optical, quantum or other neuron can replace an awful lot of linear code and so improve things, but those are for compact ultra low energy structures. The sort that cxan run off energy scavaging and so dont need power supplies. 8)

Inteligence in a system works like a keylogger crossed with a diary. All computer systems are reactive. You have to do something to get them do do anything. Intelligent systems are proactive. Theyre constantly looking up information etc using your actions not just iimmediately but on pattern based behaviour. Think on what secretaries, butlers, house help, chauffers etc actually do. Now consider how those people could be assisted at the higher end by this technology, and implementd at the lower end by people who couldnt otherwise afford them. Even minimum wage is roughly £10 thousand a year, so a reasonably useful basic predictive secretary etc should happily go for normal near OS prices. Especially if its coded to Work, not for excessive functions.

A warning from history about insistive, not assistive technology.

Clippy.

You get in a car, insert key, start, drive off, but theres complexities underneath, yet DARPA showed you only need a PS3 pprocessing capacity for fairly high speed autonomy. I cant drive. Therefore a PS3 is more intelligent than I am, its just not being allowed to be.

For a file handling interface, who wants to bring Drive IFF from Aminet, up to true TRON levels?. We tried it at LAG14, but unfortunately on an 040 A1200 it just displayed the contents of the cache. Anyone else know any cache content display method? Would this be any use to anyone? Can data display be structured in 3D so that when something like a text file is looked at, and its corrupted, multiple codings of the first few bytes can be displayed so the user can pick the cleanest, and the file reencapsulated? Devices, drives, Network connectios etc can all be represented by one or multiple various 3D representations etc.

Theres a lot of really intresting stuff appeared on Aminet over the years, that have fallen by the wayside. MAybe trawls should be done on it for ideas that could be combined for better use with others?

Something that may be possible? Just an idea? Whats the possibility of having a modern AOS version, thats similar to a cross between LiveUSB/CD, and UAE. That is, you need to connect securely or such to a remote machine, to which you have access rights and passwords etc, but your on a different machine at home, which you cant be Jacked to keep seting up for remote use. Could the LiveUAE be set up so you just stick it in, click when autorun is blocked, enter name, address, password, and SSH etc is all done for you?

Could Directory OPUS be used as a direct replacement for Windows 7 Explorer, and so AOS 5 be aimed directly as a Windows kernal or at least wrapper replacement? 8) Using WINE to handle the API calls?

Ok, Ok.. stick with Dopus.. getting a bit extreme there.. but we do need better psychological security on modern machines. Given keyloggers, data injectors, phishing scams etc etc, everyone can approach everyone in secret at any time so we need the psych filtering in order to reimplement the social blocking systems that computers otherwise remove by existance.

Amiga started off as your girlfreind. Maybe its about time to become your secretary? 8)

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by AmigaHeretic on 18-Oct-2009 16:26:16 @Hyperionmp Quote: Hyperionmp wrote: @AmigaHeretic I'm sorry but that is incorrect. There will be no AmigaOS or Amiga OS (operating system) from Amiga Inc. irrespective of the version number (5, 6 etc.). Care to give an official statement? There are a lot of unanswered questions. For example the website says, "exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1" So where does that leave AmigaForever if Hyperion has the exclusive rights to 3.1? AmigaForever being of course one of the best ways to get a full version of the entire AmigaOS3.1, including ROM images and Workbench disks.

AmigaHeretic's concern reflects confusion over Hyperionmp's exclusive rights claim for operating system versions like OS 3.1 from Amiga Inc., especially when considering the implications on platforms such as AmigaForever that provide full OS distributions, including ROM images and Workbench disks.

To clarify:
- The official stance of any company regarding software ownership is typically clarified in a public statement or legal documentation.
- If Hyperionmp claims exclusive rights to specific versions like 3.1 without an official source confirming it, there could be misunderstandings among the community.
- AmigaForever's role as a distribution platform for OS