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Re: Hyperion - Is there enough cash for a new browser?
Posted on 24-Jan-2005 20:33:55
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CharlesPickrell wrote:
I was wondering if Hyperion might be generating enough revenue through OS sales to licence a commercial browser with more features than iBrowse or AWeb? Even if that meant increasing the cost of OS 4 some.

I only bring this up because I think that having a somewhat more modern browser is important to the success of OS4.

Here is an example:

Supported Standards

* HTML4.01, XHTML1.1 (including Mobile Profile)
* CSS1, CSS2 (Partial)
* ECMA Script 262 3rd Edition (equivalent to JavaScript 1.5)
* DOM Level1, Level2, and Dynamic HTML (Partial)
* Graphic Formats: GIF, Animated GIF, JPEG, Progressive JPEG, PNG, MNG, BMP, WBMP. Supports Internationalization (Code set support for various characters/fonts)
* HTTP Cookie (Full support)
* HTTP1.1
* SSL3/TLS1.0
* SSL Root Certificates: VeriSign, Entrust, Thawte, Baltimore
* SSL Client Authentication (PKCS #7, #10, #12)
* SSL Client Authentication using IC Cards (PKCS #11)
* Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) Digital Rights Management ("forward lock/combined delivery")
* IPv4/IPv6 Dual TCP/IP Protocol Stacks
* Unicode (UTF 8, UTF 16) and legacy encodings (e.g. ISO 8859-1, Windows-1251, Shift-JIS, Big 5)



Hi CharlesPickrell,


It's too bad that every one of those couldn't just be a "Datatype".

But, in a sub-directory, as it would flood the Datatype directory with mini libraries (if i know what I'm talking about here, at all, probably don't ), so, i.e. Datatypes:WWWInterfaceCode/HTML4.01
and all else would go in that directory too.



AmigaOne! AOS4.0! As the CPU speeds and internet protocols stablize, we'll "get there"!


P.S. "WWWInterfaceCode", or something like that.

 
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Re: Hyperion - Is there enough cash for a new browser?
Posted on 25-Jan-2005 6:20:29
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@Valwit

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but it's for PocetPC and WindowsCE, isn't it?


Actually Net Front runs on a wide variety of OSes, one of which is Pocket PC. It also runs on Symbian, Linux, Palms OS, BREW, REX OS, OSE, QNX, VxWorks, ITRON, OS-9, pSOS, Nucleus and others. They also support, Power PC, ARM, MIPS, SuperH and other chipsets. They even have an integrated Flash player and PDF viewer.

I don't want to sound too much like I'm hyping Net Front, as I think other more desktop oriented browsers would be better, it is just that Net Front needs so little to operate and probably would be very quick to get running on Amiga OS 4.

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Re: Hyperion - Is there enough cash for a new browser?
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@CharlesPickrell

what i meant was "the last version" i have 3.1 on my clie and i didn't saw a newer version for palmos.

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Re: Hyperion - Is there enough cash for a new browser?
Posted on 25-Jan-2005 14:26:25
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@CharlesPickrell

I think that most of the things you are talking about should be OS supplied libraries and datatypes.

For example, a Cookie.library would mean that all browsers could share the same cookie repository. Other libraries could be a http.library, ssl.library, ecmascript.library, xml.library, css.library, and so on.

Then all the browser writer has to do is create the GUI around the browser component. Of course, being an OS library, the entire interface would be documented, so anyone could create an updated replacement.

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Re: Hyperion - Is there enough cash for a new browser?
Posted on 25-Jan-2005 14:53:23
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I hope IBrowse is the answer. It's been with us for so much time and it's fast. As long as it's updated of course.
It also proves this is capable platform, having their own browser not just another browser's clone or version...

Last edited by Jose on 25-Jan-2005 at 02:55 PM.

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Re: Hyperion - Is there enough cash for a new browser?
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by on 23-Jan-2005 18:32:38

@CharlesPickrell

I tend to agree with this.

Once apon a time it was considered a seperate tool from the OS, but Micro$oft killed that idea with Explorer. Now thanks to them, people EXPECT a browser as part of the deal when they buy an OS.

I know this rains on the parade of Amiga browser developers, but I think it's plain to see they are unable to keep up with the times independantly.

How about an official stance from Amiga Inc about a joint project with all the Amiga browser developers to create a modern up-to-date Amiga browser, or else drop Amiga browser development in favour of one of the established…


Acknowledged on January 23rd, 2005 at 18:32:38 by Charles Pickrell regarding Amiga browser development and its relevance in the modern software ecosystem.

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by CharlesPickrell on 25-Jan-2005 6:20:29

@Valwit

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but it's for PocetPC and WindowsCE, isn't it?

Actually Net Front runs on a wide variety of OSes, one of which is Pocket PC. It also runs on Symbian, Linux, Palms OS, BREW, REX OS, OSE, QNX, VxWorks, ITRON, OS-9, pSOS, Nucleus and others. They also support, Power PC, ARM, MIPS, SuperH and other chipsets. They even have an integrated Flash player and PDF viewer.

I don't want to sound too much like I'm hyping Net Front, as I think other more desktop oriented browsers would be better, it is just that Net Front needs so little to operate and probably would be very quick to get running on Amiga OS 4.


Net Front indeed supports multiple operating systems beyond Pocket PC and WindowsCE; the list includes many others you've mentioned as well as various processors like PowerPC, ARM, etc. It also has built-in media playback capabilities which could be advantageous for Amiga OS 4 users looking to quickly access web content on their devices.

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