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dangerman 
Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 18:04:22
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Does anyone know if FDI disk images are supported in the OS4 version on E-UAE? And is there an FDI image somewhere that I can download and try this out?

Specifically I am trying to run the QDOS4Amiga program - an emulator for the Sinclair QL. It runs perfectly except that I can't use it for anything without QL floppies. I've tried creating a "simple" dump of a disk (pretty much like an ADF file but only 720k long) but that isn't recognised by QDOS. I was wondering if I might have more success if I created an FDI image...

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Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 9:39:41
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salass00 
Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 9:55:12
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@dangerman

According to floppies.txt E-UAE supports the following diskimage formats:
ADF
DMS
FDI (http://www.oldskool.org/disk2fdi)
IPF

IIRC you need more than one floppy drive in order to create FDI images though.

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dangerman 
Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 7-Jun-2006 11:39:13
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@salass00

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IIRC you need more than one floppy drive in order to create FDI images though.


You also need a PC, and I haven't got one!

So I was thinking that maybe I could create an FDI file myself by reading the specification and understanding it. But that's a lot of hard work. So I thought I'd check first if FDI actually was supported. It doesn't come up in the file mask of the file requester.

Does anyone have an FDI file that I could try to check this out? Everything on the net seems to be ADF.

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1Mouse 
Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 3-Jul-2006 20:35:39
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@salass00

Can disk images be installed to a hard drive for use outside of emulation

I have DMS images of DPaint 5 and would like to run it in OS4 (not in emulation)

Is this at all possible?

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amipal 
Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 3-Jul-2006 20:40:16
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Would this...

http://www.aminet.net/package.php?package=disk/misc/diskimage.lha

...do it?

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I suppose it would also help to know if DPain 5 actually works with OS4, does anyone know

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salass00 
Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 4-Jul-2006 5:34:22
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It won't work. At least not unless you're running OS4 on a classic (BPPC/CSPPC). DPaint needs an AGA screenmode to work (i.e. no chunky). If you try to run DPaint with a gfxcard screenmode it will crash. Also it makes use of the Amiga's blitter for drawing etc., which isn't available on A1 either, so if you want to run this program you need to use E-UAE...

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salass00 
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Posted on 4-Jul-2006 5:49:12
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Can disk images be installed to a hard drive for use outside of emulation


Well there is UnADF, which can be used to extract files from adf disk images. For dms there is xdms, which can do the same for dms files, as well as generate adf or adz diskimages from dms...

Also there is as someone mentioned already diskimage.device which can be used to mount as disk several types of diskimage: adf/adz, iso, etc.

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thomas 
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Posted on 4-Jul-2006 7:05:35
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@dangerman

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dangerman wrote:
Does anyone know if FDI disk images are supported in the OS4 version on E-UAE? And is there an FDI image somewhere that I can download and try this out?

Specifically I am trying to run the QDOS4Amiga program - an emulator for the Sinclair QL. It runs perfectly except that I can't use it for anything without QL floppies. I've tried creating a "simple" dump of a disk (pretty much like an ADF file but only 720k long) but that isn't recognised by QDOS. I was wondering if I might have more success if I created an FDI image...


I don't think that FDI or IPF are the right formats for your purpose. You should rather use extended ADF files. E-UAE can handle extended ADF files for sure. You can use RawRead (Command line utility) or TSGUI to create extended ADF files from your QDOS disks on an Amiga. You can even use TSGUI and CrossDOS inside E-UAE to write your 720K images to extended ADF files (no real Amiga needed for that).

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dangerman 
Re: Disk image files in E-UAE
Posted on 13-Aug-2007 16:57:29
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@thomas

Over a year later... and I've actually tried this out!

Thomas, you were of course exactly right. Extended ADF files are the files to use for this. I can now read and write QL disk files. Thank you.

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salass00 
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Posted on 13-Aug-2007 17:49:57
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@dangerman

If you're still interested (although it appears you have already solved your problem) there are a few .fdi test files at:

http://www.oldskool.org/disk2fdi/support.html

The FDI 2.0 file format specs (PDF format) are there also.

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dangerman 
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Posted on 13-Aug-2007 18:48:05
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@salass00

Yes. Extended ADF files proved to be a much better solution for me. However, I did download one of those FDI files and E-UAE can indeed read it. A file of over 6MB for just one disk!

Thanks.

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fricopal! 
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Quote:
by salass00 on 13-Aug-2007 17:49:57

@dangerman

If you're still interested (although it appears you have already solved your problem) there are a few .fdi test files at:

http://www.oldskool.org/disk2fdi/support.html

The FDI 2.0 file format specs (PDF format) are there also.


I'm glad you found the resources helpful! If you have more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask. Happy testing with .fdi files!

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fricopal! 
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by salass00 on 4-Jul-2006 5:49:12

@1Mouse

Quote:

Can disk images be installed to a hard drive for use outside of emulation


Well there is UnADF, which can be used to extract files from adf disk images. For dms there is xdms, which can do the same for dms files, as well as generate adf or adz diskimages from dms...

Also there is as someone mentioned already diskimage.device which can be used to mount as disk several types of diskimage: adf/adz, iso, etc.


UnADF and xdms are tools for extracting files; diskimage.device allows various image formats to be mounted. All serve purposes beyond emulation.

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