"Within the framework of the settlement agreement Hyperion is granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5..."

Does OS 5 exist? Or is it a name that Hyperion may use in the future for something they start by themselves? Or what?

Last edited by Al4 on 18-Oct-2009 at 02:15 PM.

@Al4

As i see it Hyperion can after os4 make os5 etc.

@Kicko

They might have interesting ideas to it, far better than what Amiga Inc originally decided

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It be perhaps a myth?

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We should call 'Mythbusters' to find out

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As far as I can remember, and work out.. AOS 5 was supposed to have been based or run on Taos intent platform.

Now, intent was designed as a Very flexible virtualised hardware platform equivalent, in that it recoded itself to the hardware it was to run on, As it was Loaded from storage etc Onto that hardware.

Under these principles, Icaros is closest, when running in virtual mode, or recompiling AOS4 to intents bytecode.

Im afraid I cant remember how far things went, bu I beleive Sun licenced intent to code JAVA 4 in it, but for Java 5, 6 etc, I have no idea.

That is, AOS for intent.. Is AOS for Java. But.. it would Java naturalised for the hardware, so you wouldnt be running it on top of Linux etc, even though thats definitely possible.

Combine intent with Datatypes.. especially hardware, OS and exectable datatypes.. and you would have Everyone screaming blue murder, as running a Windows executable on ARM via AOS/intent would make Wine look a little slow.

Intresting how Tao went bust.. Oh well, try and make people pay tfor things, you cant complain when they refuse, wait for you to die, then pick up the remains cheaply.. Thats how they Work.

Sorry guyz. 8(

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@Al4

It's a little confusing. I'll try to explain.

Hyperion has the right to use "AmigaOS" not "Amiga OS"

So we may someday see a Hyperion "AmigaOS 5" after 4.x has fully matured.


Now, Amiga Inc. still owns the Amiga name.

So, and I think with in 2 more weeks, Amiga Inc. will release the Mac OSX killing operating system they have made.

It will be called "Amiga OS 5"


Notice the space?

I'm sure Fleecy will tell us that even though it looks like a small space between Amiga and OS, that the space really operates by creating a spatio-temporal flux, acting on the same basic concepts behind the vaunted but-yet-to-materialize Bias Drive. Once a tailored gravity wave is generates, as gravity has profound effects on both space and time, the wave is manipulated by way of electrodynamic tensors to create an opening or rift or if you must "portal" through the medium we typically understand as linear time, that is to say the Timestream. The little space itself contains the microfusion system used to operate the tailored gravity wave, and the actual space-time warpage that makes this possible, hence the electrodynamic systems.

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Tailored gravity waves?.. spaciotemporal flux?

If these guys try anything like that, Ill want words with em.. cos it means they nicked me notes Ive been posting since 97.

Hey.. what happened to my idea for a quantum optical n dimentional implementation of AOS? Its been well over a decade, surely the patents are due to expire? 8)

Oh yes, Ive seen some really, Really weird things, and youll see them to. In the next 20 years all hell will break loose as computers become sentience.. just another million fold increase needed for brute Force capacity.. but we Amigans know better than that..

Properly designed code will require fractions capacity to do the same job as brute force.

AOS can be sentient with todays technology if I have my numbers right.. You want a killer app?.. How about a desktop thats smarter than its user? 8)

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@AmigaHeretic

I'm sorry but that is incorrect. There will be no AmigaOS or Amiga OS (operating system) from Amiga Inc. irrespective of the version number (5, 6 etc.).

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@Al4

Forget OS5. Hyperion have been ripped off! Is that right, AmigaOS 3.1?!

AmigaOS3.9 was the last 68k version and unless they can delvelop it off that they are going to be reinventing the wheel, to which they are still doing.

Where was H&P in the court case? I would have like to see them. IMHO they are worse than Amiga! I didn't see Amiga actually prevent OS4 from happening at all.

@Hyperionmp

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Hyperionmp wrote: @AmigaHeretic I'm sorry but that is incorrect. There will be no AmigaOS or Amiga OS (operating system) from Amiga Inc. irrespective of the version number (5, 6 etc.).

Care to give an official statement? There are a lot of unanswered questions.

For example the website says, "exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1"


So where does that leave AmigaForever if Hyperion has the exclusive rights to 3.1?

AmigaForever being of course one of the best ways to get a full version of the entire AmigaOS3.1, including ROM images and Workbench disks.

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@Hyperionmp

I agree with you as your announcement of this settlement clearly indicates that Hyperion Entertainment now own ALL the AmigaOS concepts, including the source codes to AmigaOS 3.1, and can do anything with AmigaOS 4 and future AmigaOS 5 projects...

If Amiga Inc want to use something related to AmigaOS, then they simply have to ask Hyperion Entertainment for the license, and Hyperion wont be a fool with that thing. They will be extremely careful making clear who owns the rights to AmigaOS and who need a license, not the other way around as in the past...

An inportant huge change in Amiga history has happened. A change that should've happened years ago.

Again, congratulation Hyperion! You own it

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Who owns the Amiga boing ball? Hyperion or Amiga Inc?

OS 5 doesn't exist.

@Al4

According to the announcement of Hyperions' glorious victory, Hyperion actually now also owns the rights to use both the AmigaOS brand and the Boing Ball logo. Everything related to AmigaOS...

The main brand Amiga is still owned by Amiga Inc and Amiga Inc can produce anything else that are NOT related to AmigaOS, but like Amiga Anywhere, mobiles, PDAs based on their own technology, but for wishing to use AmigaOS parts, they have to ask Hyperion Entertainment for a license agreement...

Hyperion Entertainment also now, unlike AI, have the right to choose any hardware partners they like to fully support AmigaOS..

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I'm pretty sure AmigaOS5 never existed beyond Amiga inc's imagination.

I even think Hyperion should never release a version 5. Instead go straight to version 6, something not yet spoiled by false Amiga inc promises

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@Troels

I'm sure you are right there. Hyperion might surprisingly announce porting the AmigaOS 4.1 and beyond to the x86 platform, too, as well as supporting PPC and even Cell...

That might be possible, if that is okay for Hyperion Entertainment. I don't see anything that will stop Hyperion from doing this now that they rightfully own all the rights to the whole AmigaOS concept.

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@HKvalhe

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The main brand Amiga is still owned by Amiga Inc and Amiga Inc can produce anything else that are NOT related to AmigaOS, but like Amiga Anywhere, mobiles, PDAs based on their own technology, but for wishing to use AmigaOS parts, they have to ask Hyperion Entertainment for a license agreement...

But they can use AROS components instead of OS 3.1 ones.

Last edited by Al4 on 18-Oct-2009 at 06:15 PM.

@Al4

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Al4 wrote: OS 5 doesn't exist.

Tell that to the topic starter in this thread.

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They are dead broke and their financier died last January.

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