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Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 9:43:22
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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 8:05:32 [ #91 ]

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Oh so ZUNE will reach 100% MUI 3.8 compatibility?
Can some bounties help?

I would hope so, the thing with mui is all those extra libs who exist outside of MUI
Quote:
Will ZUNE code be shared with x64, PPC32 and m68k versions?

They are already, Zune is use in all AROS builds already

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Re: 29 years of PowerPC Amiga
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 10:31:51 Edit this post [ #92 ]

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Can I donate to make that faster?

I have two probs with AROS

- Gunnar use it without backporting to community, should be warned
- There are no native drivers for modern x64 so I have to Linux host it,
plus MUI apps dont work well. Can MUI4 illegal Hyperion be backported,
or OS3 port be used?

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
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@vox

I am an humble guy, no need to expose to the world I am an Elite Member! :P

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 14:14:10
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Me too, with silver badge :D Yet one can get banned for disliking CUSA and Hype

My mail to @deadwood

I believe you do know me as vox :D
Anyway, I would pay to have MINT LMDE Debian based
stripped down with MATE, ffox, libre and all your AROS stuff and AROS hosted. I would pay for ISO 10 to 20 eur via pay pal
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Last edited by vox on 17-Nov-2024 at 03:19 PM.

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:19:52
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@vox

Regarding Apollo the text is not correct. The developer behind Apolloos (Thor) publishes changes

Regarding MUI I do not understand what the text means. MUI4 is not property of Hyperion

And if it is about AxRuntime from Deadwood people seem not to understand the idea

The base would be a complete linux system. On top of it would run a amiga desktop. but as full linux desktop no different to KDE, GNOME or whatever. On this the apps would run, either as a real linux app or in a kind of VM. First would be linux app with zune GUI, example is mplayer on the axruntime webpage with zune GUI and below linux code. As alternative Aros apps can run in a VM so no need to port.

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 17:46:38
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So ApolloOS advancements are part of AROS x64? OK, my bad, I apologize.

There is MUI5 which is fakenamed backport of MUI4 for OS4 and OS3
https://github.com/amiga-mui

Yes that kind of distro is what I want. We agree on this.

Video of distro
\https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC052icdB6Y

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 18:25:32
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ApolloOS should be a fork of AROS 68k. Where AROS had chosen to go for a more abragent system, and this way cater to multiple systems, PPC, arm, x86, 68k, ApolloOS picked the 68k and chose to optimize it further for their hardware. There's solutions on AROS that are fantastic for multiple GHz machines, but not that much for a machine like vampire, and as such were discarded. Still, I don't understand why you mix aros x86 with Apollo OS

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 20:27:05
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@pixie

Because some advancements such as included sw can be backported to x64
Not ASM and MMX optimisations, but if you have checked ApolloOS
its quite a nice distro I know of no x64 match.

This is v9 from 2020
https://youtu.be/6KU33AJLIjI

Plain m68k or x64 AROS I have seen are barebone, like OS 3.0 or worse

Last edited by vox on 17-Nov-2024 at 08:29 PM.

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What you have here is not much different from what AROS 68k allows you to do. Besides, AROS 68k let you Run AmigaOS apps, so you can extend it further. If you run on WinUAE there's no sweat.

In no particular order
https://youtu.be/Z1piKY0T6pU

Native:
https://youtu.be/S28-z9IBqtg

Hosted:
https://youtu.be/0aSAKJSZNhk

Dan Wood's AROS review
https://youtu.be/PtDiXhjSIfs

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Re: Future of AROS and Linux mix
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 22:36:43
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@pixie

True AROS m68k ON AMIGA WITH Chipset can run a lot WB apps and games.
However, integration of JanusUAE (like RunInUAE) can do similar effect on x64

I ve found thread on MUI for AROS
https://github.com/amiga-mui/muidev/issues/258

Problem is MorphOS team claims they have all rights to MUI4
and MUI5 is developed from thin air since MUI5 doesnt exist.

CUrrent copyright is
Originally developed by Stefan Stuntz, it is now maintained by Thore Böckelmann and Jens Maus.

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