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TetiSoft 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 20:12:11
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@newlight

Quote:

It is secure that with a boot priority of 11 on DH0 I can finally boot the system or
may I check the floppy cables too?

When you dont have any floppy or CD inserted during boot there should be
no difference between boot priority 0 and 11, in both cases it will probably
be the highest priority, except you have another partition with higher
priority.
Quote:

Is the twist part of the floppy cable the one that I may connect or is it the other part?

Sorry, dont remember right now, maybe the twist is for drive B: (oops, FD1: ).
Any guide you'll find on the net how to do PC floppy drive cabling and jumpering
should IMHO also apply to the AOne. The quick test to find out if the floppy
causes problems is to detach the cable and switch on the machine :)

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newlight 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 20:36:56
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@TetiSoft

Nothing happens changing the twist cable neither with a boot priority of 11 on
DH0.

What should I do to make OS 4.0 Final bootable on my system?

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jack 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 21:36:10
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@newlight

Did u try to get to early startup menu?
(after loading kickstart)
An then to boot without starup-sequence?

Just a thought,
Jack

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newlight 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 21:57:59
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@jack

Yes and it boots but logically I want to get a diferent aproach.

Is there any guide to install SUCCESFULLY OS 4.0 Final?

Is very important I have now my Amiga One out of use.

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Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 22:36:05
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@newlight

It is hard to verify this from the thread (too tired), but is there possibility that you're trying to load one release of os using the kickstart+modules from dfferent release?

Jack

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newlight 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 22:40:59
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@jack

Absolutely not because on the load bar it shows all the new modules
I have installed and there is only one option to load not as the update 4 that it has 4
diferent versions of the same update so I think is well installed and maybe I have missed some point of the configuration.

I insist is there any guide to this installation on the net?

Last edited by newlight on 02-Oct-2007 at 10:42 PM.

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Samwel 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 2-Oct-2007 23:39:49
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@newlight

Removed comment, didn't read the whole thread

EDIT AGAIN: Have you done a clean install of OS4 final?
Or are you keeping update 4 on the same partion when installing?

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TetiSoft 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 3-Oct-2007 7:20:31
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@newlight

Quote:

What should I do to make OS 4.0 Final bootable on my system?

Answering my questions before asking more questions? I've asked
Quote:

Can you enter bootmenu, boot without S-S, type "Set echo on" and
"Execute S/Startup-Sequence"? If yes, where does it hang?

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newlight 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 3-Oct-2007 12:06:23
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@TetiSoft

All right I don't know how to boot without S-S and the other things

I have reinstalled OS 4.0 Update#4 provisionally and I keep my eye on this thread to solve this question.

Thanks anyway.

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Snuffy 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 3-Oct-2007 16:39:31
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Hi Detlef @TetiSoft

Which bug?

Well, I saw that "0" stored as a boot priority in MTB got flipped around to -128.
This bug in the early pre days may have been repaired. I don't now about the latest MTB version.

UBoot has a problem: when I installed Update#4, it would never bootup; it stayed in a black screen after modules loaded. Started looking at the Uboot/hardware/IDE/device settings real close. UD#4 was defaulting the drives to "automatic". Well, I changed all my devices to what they 'actually' where, that is, changed 'automatic' to 'harddrive' if the device was a HD; same for the others. Guess what that worked. So, you're the expert, what was difference, and did 'automatic' imply??

Final and July updates where no problem neither.

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newlight 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 3-Oct-2007 18:24:22
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@Snuffy

Update #4 does not boot automatically now,I have to type "boota" command.

Can anybody explain me the right steps to do the Final installation process?

I'm lost in the ice.

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RacerX 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 2:41:48
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@newlight

Quote:

newlight wrote:
@Snuffy

Update #4 does not boot automatically now,I have to type "boota" command.

Can anybody explain me the right steps to do the Final installation process?

I'm lost in the ice.

Check the UBoot menus. I think there is a place for 'boot command'

If not then

setenv bootcommand=boota
setenv save

might work. I don't have my UBoot docs handy at the moment so I can't be sure.

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TetiSoft 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 5:33:01
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@newlight

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how to boot without S-S and the other things

Pressing Help (normally ScrollLock on a PC keybord) or both (L+R) mouse buttons
during boot brings up bootmenu which lets you select the boot device for WB
and allows to boot without S-S.

There also exists a shortcut for booting without S-S without entering bootmenu,
thats the Ctrl key or the middle mouse button (often a clickable wheel on a PC mouse).

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Kotler 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 8:13:12
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@TetiSoft

I'm a user of OS4.0 (micro A1), and I'm just wondering
whether all of these handy shortcuts will be documented
in one general AmigaGuide or some other means, and
distributed with the OS (Preferably not as a contribution).
That way, I could actually start remembering to use them.
As it is now, I always use the reset button on the chassi
to reset ;). I don't know the other shortcuts.

Thanks.

Best regards

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TetiSoft 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 8:55:06
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@Kotler

Quote:

I'm a user of OS4.0 (micro A1), and I'm just wondering
whether all of these handy shortcuts will be documented
in one general AmigaGuide or some other means, and
distributed with the OS (Preferably not as a contribution).
That way, I could actually start remembering to use them.
As it is now, I always use the reset button on the chassi
to reset ;). I don't know the other shortcuts.

You may want ro read Documentation/Kickstart/bootmenu.doc
on the OS4Final CD when you want to know how to enter bootmenu.

You may want to read Documentation/Keyboards.doc on the
OS4Final CD when you want to know how to hard/soft reboot
the machine via keyboard.

You may want to read Documentation/C/Reboot.doc on the
OS4Final CD when you want to know how the machine can be
rebooted from shell or a shell script.

There also exists Documentation/Intuition/NewControls
which explains intuition shortcuts.

There also exists LOCALE:Help//Sys/Workbench.guide
which is displayed when pressing the Help key in Workbench. The
latest published version of that file doesnt include all bootmenu,
reset and intuition shortcuts yet, and doesnt explain that pressing
Shift or Alt during boot skips executing the WBStartup programs.

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Kotler 
Re: OS 4.0 question
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 16:57:18
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@TetiSoft

Many thanks for all these pointers, greatly appriciated.

Also, a chapter in the Workbench guide with these tips is a great
idea. A simple list is better than no list at all.
One other idea: How about adding a "Help" shortcut in the "File"
menu, that would launch this particular guide. I'm not sure people
knows about the Scroll Lock key is launching this guide.
I don't see this as a particular difficult feature to add, but you
may be swamped with other more important things to do.

Best Regards,
Kotler

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