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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
Posted on 1-Sep-2024 15:16:04
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AROS Vision MC68K doesn't run Deluxe Music 2.

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Many OS3 applications do not work on AROS 68k, you should use native AROS 68k applications on AROS 68k.

It makes no sense to use old OS3 Applications on AROS 68k, for OS3 Applications better to use an Amiga.

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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Here we go if there are no other problems soon the new AROS One v2.6 will be available for download.

There will also be an update via the standard installer from version 2.5 to the new version 2.6.


AmiFox can also play YouTube videos and does so via the integrated Amitube!


https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1703722&postcount=139

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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Quote:

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:
Many OS3 applications do not work on AROS 68k, you should use native AROS 68k applications on AROS 68k.

It makes no sense to use old OS3 Applications on AROS 68k, for OS3 Applications better to use an Amiga.


I quote from https://aros.sourceforge.io/

"The AROS Research Operating System is a lightweight, efficient, and flexible desktop operating system, designed to help you make the most of your computer. It's an independent, portable and free project, aiming at being compatible with AmigaOS at the API level (like Wine, unlike UAE), while improving on it in many areas."

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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I am closing OT because this post is about AROS x86 ! Open another thread if you want to talk about AROS 68k

AROS 68k is based on Amiga OS 3.1 APIs, so no OS 3-5, 3.9, 3.2 applications will work, also many OS3 applications and many games will not work.

All this is mortifying for AROS 68k, because it is not at fault because AROS 68k applications work very well.

Consider that no "new" AROS 68k native Sowfware, like for example Finalwrite released a few days ago for 68k will not work on a real Amiga.

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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Finally after the serious problem of the Broken Hard Disk, AROS One v2.6 x86 has arrived!!!


AROS One x86 v2.6 includes a lot of new and updated software, also some important Core files have been fixed.

The various System and Application configurations have also been improved.

From this version on the AROS One website you will also find the specific update for AROS One 2.5, for all those who want to upgrade to version 2.6 without re-installing the new system.

In the Upgrade AROS One 2.5 To v2.6 package you will also find a file called "Aros-One 2.5-Fix" this must be run before the update via its Icon, and serves to clean up AROS One v2.5 of files no longer needed or to be replaced.


AROS One v2.6 ISO/IMG/UPDATE: Download


This is the list of new features you will find in AROS One v2.6

Update AROS One Core:
- IconList.mui
- i8042.hidd
- crt.library
- debug.library
- Keymaps Spanish
- muimaster.library
- Catalog Dutch (Icons)
- Wanderer
- New Buttons ArosPDF

Update AROS One OS System:
- New Icon Bar AmiStart (Glow Icons)
- New splash (Grub)
- New Backdrops AROS One
- New Descriptors Datatypes
- New Def _Icons
- SMB2-Start
- New Play-List Radio (Music 60s 70s 80s 90s 00s 10s)
- Script Empty .Recycled (Also Empty Folders)
- Script Show .Recycled
- Script Hide .Recycled
- Update DOpus4 Config
- Update SMB2 Docs
- Set clock on AmiStart

Update AROS One Apps:
- PintorWeb v5.0
- VindentiumPicta v3.5
- iConecta v5.25
- Vintage Song Player v2.60
- Omanko v1.25
- WitchCleaner v3.20
- Image2PDF v2.7
- Crono v3.0
- FIGlet v2.2.5
- SFSobject v1.6
- DeleteIcons v1.0
- Leeko (Demo Scene)
- Micery (Demo Scene)
- AnimWebConv KeyCode
- AROSDebugView (A viewer for debug messages)
- RapaGUI v2.2

Update AROS One Games:
- BlackjuanPoker KeyCode (unblock the adult mode)
- Caveman

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
Posted on 25-Sep-2024 7:12:39
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Great progress with the new OWB 2.0, but there is still work to be done to optimise it better, I attach links for more information and to follow the development.


https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1293&rowstart=120

https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/attachments/owb20.jpg


Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM on 25-Sep-2024 at 07:14 AM.
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Planescape Torment: GemRB For AROS One X86, for Italian users, can be localised in Italian, see video :)

https://youtu.be/Y7MViXSDcAA

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New update of OWB 2.0-20241003

- Updated MUI (Muimaster.library.20241003)
- Fixed crash when dragging an image

Dragging from the webpage works perfectly, now you can drag a link, image or selected text, e.g. to another tab title area or new page button and it will open the link.

It is now also possible to see YouTube videos attached on Google search, than on Forums!

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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2 videos about AROS One 2.6 have been posted on youtube in recent weeks! they are very well made and show some of its functions


https://youtu.be/M7YjufrJqDs


https://youtu.be/ZNXauy5m5Wc

Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM on 05-Oct-2024 at 03:19 PM.

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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OWB 2.0 update 32 Bit and 64 Bit version, we are close to the final version which if no other problems are encountered should be released at the end of October, otherwise it could slip to November!

https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1293&rowstart=180&pid=6472#post_6472

Release Order:
1) Update (U2) release for ABiv0 i386 AROS containing compoments needed to run Odyssey 2.0
2) Odyssey 2.0 for i386
3) New release of AxRuntime and ABIv11 linux hosted AROS
4) Odyssey 2.0 for x86_64

These are the new features for OWB 2.0 32Bit and OWB 64 Bit:

Changes:
- address bar gets updated when navigating to next youtube video
- find text panel can now be closed
- option to open network activity panel is hidden
- option to edit context menus is hidden

Things that will be fixed
- enabling JIT for x86_64
- supporting JIT when running on AxRT
- fix network disconnection problems visible on AxRT
- see if I can improve playback performace a bit

Things that "won't" be fixed for v2.0 (probably in future versions)
- network activity window
- network leds
- context menus
- fav icons
- adblock

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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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I tried my hand at creating some Scripts to make it easier for all those users who are not Amiga Emulation experts.

Basically I've created some simple scripts in AmigaOS so that an Emulator would be started, with a typical configuration so that the user only has to add the Floppy (ADF).

The scripts should work on any "Amigosa" Platform of course depending on the platform you will choose the emulator that works best.

The scripts as well as starting the emulation will also load a config file which is universal, practically it should be compatible with all Emulators, the scripts created are 2 one for AGA games and the other for OCS/ECS games.

The two configs in addition to the settings for the two ChipSets also include a ROM and Floppy path, in the same path there is also the Emulator, all to keep all the data in one path.

I created a small video showing when mentioned, the system used in the video test is my AROS One, the emulator chosen was JanusUAE (more advanced and better working), also tested E-UAE and P-UAE, but they didn't satisfy me as much as JanusUAE.

The script once started will show the kick-start screen, the user will only have to run the emulator icon or use the function keys CTR-Alt+i and add the floppy, the emulator will do the rest, when the game will ask for more floppies you will have to redo the operation add floppy.


Video Tutorial: Emulator UAE Script

https://youtu.be/tKV80PfPUVQ


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Re: AROS One x86 In Progress
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Instead, here is the video showing how WHDLoad games will start on AROS One!

Of course on AROS One there will be no KickStart or Games, that's what the user will have to do:


Before running, the games carefully read "All" the specific Readme also found in each folder, all this to

facilitate step-by-step installations.


For WHDLoad games the first time you start with TinyLauncher you have to create the Games Menu,
Read the attached TinyLauncher Readme and follow the on-screen instructions.


First you need to copy KickStart 1.3 and KickStart 3.1 to the path and name below:

SYS:Extras/Amiga-Games/DH0/Devs/Kickstarts/

KickStart must be renamed Kick34005.A500 and Kick40068.A1200 respectively.


ADF games must be copied to the Games-ADF folder
WHDLoad games must be copied to the Games-WHD folder instead.

If desired, subfolders can be created for each individual game.

No operating system is required, of course you can also load
ADF, and WHDLoad to start Workbench 1.3 and Workbench 3.1.


This is the video showing the ease of execution in the AROS environment running JanusUAE, which in turn runs what I set up in the script!

https://youtu.be/eJ9XGIipNGI

Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM on 20-Oct-2024 at 12:19 AM.

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Having some spare time, I studied and put into practice the Amibridge procedure shown HERE, which would then be the one used by IcarOS.

This is a not so simple procedure to do, Amibridge from IcarOS allows you to run OS3 software using AROS 68k or via AmigaForever.

My Idea instead is to create an Amibridge with all Standard Amiga OS's like OS 3.1, OS 3.9 and OS3.2
On AROS One there will only be the settings and the 68k files accompanying Janus-UAE, users will only have to copy the OS and KickStart into the appropriate folders.

To do this I am using JanusUAE as stated in the attached guide, but it should also work with E-UAE if it includes the "Coherency" " Wanderer Integration" functions.

At the moment I have experimented with OS3.1 and OS3.2 RTG and it worked perfectly, the RTG system is essential otherwise Amibridge will not work, the system must be light otherwise emulation would be slow, JanusUAE and E-UAE do not have the many functions and power of WinUAE which exploits the host hardware.

For OS 1.3, OS 2.1 systems, due to lack of RTG there will eventually be normal windowed emulations without integration on Wanderer.


https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/attachments/amibridge.jpg

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Did some tests to integrate OS 3.9 and OS 3.2 as well!

Everything works fine, but if a Guru happens, Janus-UAE will always go to Guru, whenever you start an Amibridge configuration.

This is solved if you start the executable "JanusUAE" without any configuration. Once this is done, all Amibridge scripts will work fine again.

Unfortunately JanusUAE like E-UAE (with the new Core goes in Guru) are outdated and very far from WinUAE, after a while running 68k applications hangs, it is solved by exiting the emulation, see attached video.

Nornmal Emulations (no Amibridge) are much more stable

https://youtu.be/tZyI_ld3Z84

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Wow so how does that coherence work? Is the screen those apps run on 'invisible' so that they appear to be on the same screen side by side with the native applications?

Is each Amiga binary running in its own UAE instance, or are they sharing the same one?

Can Amiga apps open their 'own' screen?

What if you want to run a game using whdload, would that then get a separate UAE instance?

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@Mobileconnect
Actually, with the same system you could run the Games 'if they are present in the OS3 system you are running'.

The problem is that the 3x systems to be installed for AmiBridge must be RTG, this would be a problem for native "PAL" games, unless you run WHDLoad Games.

On AROS One x86 there is a better way to run ADF AGA and ECS/OCS Games, but also WHDLoad Games through a procedure similar to the one seen in the video posted above, I had discussed it in previous threads, this was the video tutorial:

https://youtu.be/tKV80PfPUVQ


On AROS One x86 there is also a GUI similar to iGame for running WHDLoad games, see video

https://youtu.be/Tjl3hrBlMpw

https://youtu.be/BM9y7EbmtYw

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Finished the AmiBridge function on AROS One x86, it was quite complicated to configure everything, but now it seems to be even more stable, I had to experiment, Janus-UAE is based on E-UAE sources, but for this purpose it turned out to be the best choice, on E-UAE in the GUI there are no Options to Configure AmiBridge.

The tricky thing will probably be for inexperienced users, AmiBridge only works if the Video Resolutions of AROS and OS3 are identical, which means that you have to install OS3 systems in RTG, which will be tricky for those who don't know how to fiddle with the Picasso 96 preference programme.

As for OS 1.3 and 2.1, since they cannot install Picasso96 they can be run in PAL mode on an AROS One window.

I attach a new video see running OS 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 and 3.9 with Amibridge and OS 1.3 and 2.1 in Window mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIC1k-5wC1o&feature=youtu.be

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Created some new Skins for AmiFish, among them in the next version of AROS One you will find a Pawn Skin based on the AROS One Logo, see screenshot.

AmiFish is a nice Chess game updated to version 2.0, on AROS One there was already version 1.0.

AmiFish uses an external engine "Stockfish" currently maintained by a community of open-source programmers, since 2010 Stockfish has repeatedly occupied the top position in the main chess engine rankings !!!

https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/attachments/amifish.jpg

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Legadon, ALB42 new Application for reading eBooks, for AROS One I created 4 sets of buttons, see scrennshot, the buttons are automatically replaced by clicking on the appropriate Icon as is the case with AmiFox and other customised AROS One Applications.

https://www.arosworld.org/infusions/forum/attachments/legadon1.jpg

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