@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

Friends do not call others "SS".

But I have to admit I never know if all your posts are just some sort of sick joke. Something you find funny.

And you seem to go on and on about the splitup.

The devs of each camps do not CARE about the "war" anymore. They work together (maybe except Gunnar, he still insists his version is the "only Amiga" ^^ But even he shows some cooperation with people from other camps).

Just let people use what they want to use.

And you know how long it takes to port over betwen OS4MOS or whatever ? 1-2 days. That is not the problem.

@MagicSN

AROS 32 Bit Version confirmed to work now

@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

32bit software is still most common even on AROS. Most distributions are based on it. There is a shift lately to 64bit, but that is currently in the making. Most existing distributions on PC are still 32bit.

So it makes sense to support it

And please stop with nonsense like this: "Certainly not. It is you, MagicSS,
with your smothering of free speech: "such discussion does not belong here".

Next step: Hofbräukeller?"

In my experience only stupid people who have no real things to say start with this. You can do better...

MagicSN does it in his spare time. Nobody can be forced to do something as long he is not on a payroll. If you would pay him fulltime he certainly would do what you propose. Will you pay him? If not it is his decision what he supports and what not. You can politely say what you think but that is it

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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I don't know if has anything with Q.OS but its kind of the same idea is it not?

kolla said it was a hoax in his subsequent post.

https://aminet.net/package/pix/illu/qgrab

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MagicSN and OlafS25 wrote: Friends do not call others "SS". And please stop with nonsense like this: "Certainly not. It is you, MagicSS But I have to admit I never know if all your posts are just some sort of sick joke. Something you find funny.

FRIENDS!

You understandably misunderstood the meaning of SS, which merely stood for a tongue-in-cheek "Speech Smotherer"!!

Regardless, my friends, my middle aged friends dare I say,
you are all taking yourselves way, WAY too seriously.

Allow for a second a third person point of view, a Tomb Raider glance at this Amiga thing of ours:
men in their 40s, 50s, 60s, tip tip typing away on a bulletin board talking about obscure semi-dead hobby technology while their kids scream in the nearby room, between a google search for "how to lose belly fat" and "symptoms of arthritis".

Come on. We are here to forget for a minute about the world,
escape the malaise for a fleeting second,
and to do so, the rules of that big place out there should not apply.
Be whoever you want, say whatever traverses your mind, and HAVE FUN.

To bring the grievances, constraints, etiquettes and general grayness of reality here...
...it's a waste.


WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GO BACK ON TOPIC:


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MagicSN and OlafS25 wrote: And you seem to go on and on about the splitup. 32bit software is still most common even on AROS. Most distributions are based on it. There is a shift lately to 64bit, but that is currently in the making. Most existing distributions on PC are still 32bit. Nobody can be forced to do something as long he is not on a payroll (...) You can politely say what you think but that is it

Again, I wonder why my opinions are perceived as royal decrees.
I am merely expressing my point of view, VEHEMENTLY SO PERHAPS, but still just a point of view:

As easy as it might be to port this to that, and as gone might the times of the "camps" be,
I still believe that all this splitting is a waste.

And the efforts to maintain 32bit and 64bit aros, another (yet less egregious) waste.
Not to mention all those derivatives of 3.1. Coffin here, Caffeine there and whatnot.

Amiga being the niche it is, doesn't need to strenuously maintain backward compatibility like, say, Windows, Linux or MacOS, carrying over past architectures and libraries and whatnot sometimes for over a decade.

So I believe future-oriented projects like Aros should throw away anything that is not 100% modern, like the 64 bits architecture, and the past should be covered by the original, official continuation of AmigaOS - hence 3.2. Sorry Hyperionites, I consider (opinion!! personal opinion!!!) AmigaOS 4 a dead-end, failed avenue to the future.


HAS ME_RJ_MICAL BEEN CLEAR my friends?
My dearest, lovely comrades in Amiga whom I shake and harshly so, but ultiamately intimately love?


/m!

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@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

We both know what it meant to stand for.

You know you are (AFAK) write on a German server where accusing someone of Nazi-stuff is illegal (unless you can prove that person to be a Nazi) ?

Porting stuff to more Amiga like platforms is not as you seem to think "deviating from other work". Instead it gets more money in which makes it better possible to keep up supporting all Amiga platforms.

So it is exactly the opposite way to your claims.

No Amiga platform can survive on it's own today.

As to AROS - 64 Bit architecture currently has no 3D HW Support. Until that happensa actually the 32 Bit version is (for projects where I can support AROS at all) actually more interesting to me.. Once 3DHW is supported for 64 Bit of course 64 Bit will be more interesting.

On the other hand do you know how much effort it is to port back a 64 Bit AROS software to 32 Bit ? Basically none. Nada. Keiner. Zilch. I just can start a 32 Bit compile and walk away while it compiles.

Which is actually how I did this.

My suggestion to you is to give up your position of "all Amiga-stuff needs to be one platform and all other Amiga platforms need to die". It is exactly the other way round. And generally stop trolling. And stop insulting people - I mentioned the "SS"-Comment but it was not the only insult by you. And if you don't give up and continue to behave like a 5 year old don't be surprised to be treated like a 5 year old.

MagicSN

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@OlafS25

That's not quite true. The development of 32-bit software on AROS is currently at a standstill, and it is not known whether there will still be support. There are only minor updates to third-party software.

AROS 64, on the other hand, includes new software and new updates, improvements and hundreds of Core fixes that are not available on 32-bit and it is not known whether they will be available in the future.

AROS 64 is already quite stable and allows you to browse with OWB at the same speed as a Windows PC. Try it to believe it.

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@OlafS25

I couldn't word it any better (though of course I am not "buyable" - while I support what I want to support, even on someone's payroll I still support extra platforms that person might not like).

herr Hauser is German so proved
this ss was funny micro mical joke

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MagicSN wrote: @MEGA_RJ_MICAL You know you are (AFAK) write on a German server where accusing someone of Nazi-stuff is illegal (unless you can prove that person to be a Nazi) ?

HA, friend MagicSN,
so much for

"my friends, my middle aged friends dare I say,
you are all taking yourselves way, WAY too seriously"


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stop trolling. And stop insulting people - I mentioned the "SS"-Comment but it was not the only insult by you.

Trolling, and the tame pushes that you portray as "insults", are the only way to stimulate growth.
GANDER! Gander at the feeble youth of today,
cradled by hyper-protectionism, with any little play on them being attacked as "bullying",
with jokingly pokes being smothered by cancel culture,
look at how weak, self-pitying, depressed, suicidal they have grown.

Trolling is that muscular guy yelling at the fat kid that he's fat, holding up a ruthless mirror,
so that the fat kid joins a gym, become muscular, and finds another fat kid to shame,
A DARWINIAN CYCLE OF VIRTUE.


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And if you don't give up and continue to behave like a 5 year old don't be surprised to be treated like a 5 year old

See, this is what you, and most of you all don't get.
We are here to be 5 years old again.
I mean, my friend, you go around calling yoursef MAGIC sn,
that's not exactly the name you would put on a business card, is it?

And in behaving as a 5 years old in this playground, I expect to meet other 5 years old,
who might insult me back, throw spitballs at me, like 5 years old do.
Not boring, grey, sad adults who can't take a joke AND THREATEN LEGAL ACTION!


FRIEND MAGICSN LET'S BE YOUNGER AND YOUNGER TOGETHER AGAIN!!!!!!!


/M!

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