If we can not use the 4 cores but only one of the ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz
How fast or slow will that be?
This seams like a possible let down to me.

@matthey
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I don't agree that "it's not safe to use a system without memory protection on the internet". Anything coming through the internet is under complete control of the internet software. Anything unsafe which is allowed is the fault of the internet software not memory protection.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the internet software" -- can you clarify this point?

@nikosidis
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If we can not use the 4 cores but only one of the ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz How fast or slow will that be?

Faster than any Commodore-era Amiga, I would think. Would be kind of a waste of resources only using one core, but at least it's a very inexpensive waste of resources, since the board is about $45 US.

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@matthey
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I did say major AmigaOS changes would be needed without custom hardware. I'm tired of wasting my time developing software for a handful of Amiga users. I haven't seen a game/business plan that would allow the AmigaOS/AROS to have a large enough user base to attract users and developers to an OS (including porting to the RaspberryPi at this late stage). Without compatibility or users there is not enough developers and software to be competitive even if the features were competitive. IMO, an OS development business only is a dead business model. I don't think the AmigaOS without hardware is viable.

This is the kicker. Hardware sold is going to drive the demand from the users. I don't think AmigaOS is attractive enough at this point to drive demand for ports to platforms like the RPi or PCs. There is already UAE.

Remember why the Amiga was purchased? Bang for the buck, bare-metal performance, etc... Now a lot of demand is coming from nostalgia. The A1222
and Vampire are getting back to that. As far as I can tell quite a few Vampires are being sold (all that can be made) and I expect that once OS4 issues with A1222 are sorted out quite a few of those systems will be sold as well.

We have the "current generation" Amiga OS running on 68K and PPC. I do not believe OS4/PPC is "next generation". To me "next generation" means a breaking update to AmigaOS (memory protection, SMP, ...).

On the Vampire side the Apollo core is more powerful per clock than PPC and likely ARM at some point. The core team is continually upgrading the core architecture. PPC is pretty much done once the current generations have been accounted for in possible future OS4 ports.

On the OS side I agree on the money-making potential of simply working on Amiga OS. The user base just isn't there to support it (hence Hyperion's money troubles?) in any major way. That is my reason for suggesting to just open source the thing. Hyperion (of whoever will own it after all the legal foo) has to find some way to make money obviously but perhaps they need to go back to their roots and start porting software/games? License the OS for commercial sales (Apollo, A-EON, Amigakit, ?Cloanto?).

I am tired of seeing forked OS. We have OS3.x, OS4,x, AROS, MorphOS, ... I would hope open-sourcing OS 3.x would bring some developers back into the fold. Grab the "good stuff" from AROS. Fork it so somebody can play with an RPi port, or start on a next-generation experiment. Now real bounties can be implemented. Other open-source code could be pulled in (such as Linux device drivers) without fear.