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Re: A600GS Posted on 9-Jul-2024 15:58:44
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Yes, good product by the look of it. I'm happy with the Mini as my living room Amiga (and light DPaint use under AMiNIMiga) but for those without an original Amiga this fills a niche no doubt. _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: A600GS Posted on 9-Jul-2024 17:21:59
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If you build your own, you will have to use pirated/unlicenced software |
Blatant lie.
But on that topic - how are “dabbling amiga sceners” supposed to make use of all the ARexx features of PPaint without buying a copy of “real” AmigaOS? What can you provide them?Last edited by kolla on 09-Jul-2024 at 05:26 PM.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 10-Jul-2024 3:55:39
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it is really sad to read that so many time and work were wasted |
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Re: A600GS Posted on 10-Jul-2024 3:58:03
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some people buy it and open it it is just emulator running on orange pi zero with interface for old mouse and joystick
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Re: A600GS Posted on 10-Jul-2024 6:00:49
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If you build your own, you will have to use pirated/unlicenced software. So quite a flippant comment when you stop and think of the work that goes into putting together a product such as an A600GS. |
A600GS is for a convenient "out of the box" experience.
I also build my own AmigaOS distro with my licensed Amiga software up to H2 1996, multiple Amiga Forever releases, Hyperion's AmigaOS 3.2, various ex-commercial software re-release as freeware or GPL'ed (e.g. Miami TCP, Opus Magellan 5 GPL), but I prefer a convenient "out of the box" experience.
I have purchased 3rd party Amiga apps for my Emu68 setup i.e. RDP software.
I do have an account with A-EON's AMIStore via AmigaOS 4.1 FE/Amiga Forever package.
I'm licensed for MS Office for Mac.
Many British Amiga magazines cover CDs has "big" commercial software on them. British Amiga magazines tried to shift the Amiga's user base into a non-gaming.
Besides Amiga games, technical drawing (e.g. IntroCAD and XCAD) and music notation (e.g. Deluxe Music 2) are my areas of interest since I spent many hours on them, hence I'm less interested in Final Writer and PPaint. OctaMED V8 is a maybe.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 10-Jul-2024 6:56:48
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British Amiga magazines tried to shift the Amiga's user base into a non-gaming. |
Hah, that’s funny!
I used to buy these UK mags every now and then as they were on sale here in Norway, but they were pricy. During summer of 1995 I went on interrail (with money earned from DPaint job on my A1200) and spent a few weeks in Germany and I discovered the German Amiga mags. Turned out that for the price of just a few UK mags, I could have year long subscription on any of the German ones. With the extra bonus of focus being on productivity and "DFÜ" instead of gaming, and a LOT less irrelevant ads (!!), which pretty much dominated UK mags. So I subscribed to them all, even the more games focused Amiga Joker. I vaguely recall reading about the possible powerpc based future of Amiga in an interview with a certain Ralph Schmidt while I was visiting the technical museum in Munich, someone I later learned was the one and same "laire" that I knew from IRC… fun times.
DPaint’s forte was simple animation, especially the whole "move" tool, which PPaint lacks. PPaint on the other hand, has a rich ARexx interface that to a degree can make up for the missing "move" tool, but that requires ARexx to be available.
So here’s a challenge for Andy Blues - make the ARexx interface of PPaint , OctaMED SS and other software available vis socket on the Linux side, allowing scripting with python, lua, regina and whatever on the Linux. Naturally, any advanced user do also want shell access to the Linux side (like the "pi" command on A314 or PiStorm) or Bebbo’s ssh (he’s also fond of whacky version strings btw).Last edited by kolla on 10-Jul-2024 at 07:10 AM.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 11-Jul-2024 4:55:16
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Between my brother and myself, we purchased at least Amiga Format and CU Amiga nearly every month until H2 1996. I also purchase PC Format (UK).
Sometimes, Amiga Power (UK) Amiga Action, Amiga Shopper (UK), Amiga Computing (UK), Australian Commodore and Amiga Review, Australian Personal Computing, Your Computer (Australia).
My high school's library is also stocked with monthly computer magazines.
My Dad introduced me to Amiga Action magazine since He plays sports games. There is an advantage when one of the parents also plays games and does accounts/back office on desktop computers. I'm a 2nd gen Amiga user/owner when my Dad is 1st gen Amiga user/owner. My Dad's workmates from Sydney Waterboard have A2000s and play games on them. Last edited by Hammer on 11-Jul-2024 at 05:06 AM. Last edited by Hammer on 11-Jul-2024 at 05:03 AM.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 11-Jul-2024 18:15:52
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Yes! I also would like such a product based on that concept. _________________
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Re: A600GS Posted on 11-Jul-2024 18:37:22
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Re: A600GS Posted on 25-Jul-2024 14:41:13
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| Our Time Prefs program has been added to AmiBench on the A600GS. This will be released as part of a free downloadable update in the coming days. You may notice that it uses a few extended Classes and Gadgets that are part of SystemV46.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 26-Jul-2024 11:28:48
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| A restructure of Programs partition on the AmiBench on the A600GS:
Games drawer added for games that can start from AmiBench, such as WHDLOAD / JST games packs.
Office drawer icon added. This is for applications such as Final Writer.
Time Prefs updated to v46.21 which adjusts the tab corners to rounded edges.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 29-Jul-2024 22:40:54
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Re: A600GS Posted on 29-Jul-2024 22:44:07
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Looking forward to a blog post or two!
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Re: A600GS Posted on 19-Aug-2024 13:53:46
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| On Saturday we attended the Zzapp 2024 Live! show and demonstrated the A600GS to the attendees. All day we were busy answering questions and demonstrating the features of the A600GS. It was great to receive such great feedback!
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Re: A600GS Posted on 19-Aug-2024 15:20:41
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This site cannot handle big pictures, it breaks it apart.
TOS Images embedded in threads should be no wider than 640 pixels, larger images should be hyperlinked. Last edited by pixie on 19-Aug-2024 at 03:26 PM.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 11-Oct-2024 11:20:40
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Re: A600GS Posted on 11-Oct-2024 22:18:29
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Maybe you can run AIBB and give an overview about screen modes, I'm interested if it can do RTG Last edited by OneTimer1 on 11-Oct-2024 at 11:21 PM.
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Re: A600GS Posted on 12-Oct-2024 7:16:26
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Main negative side that I heard from potential new/existing users of A600GS was simple and not original/attractive housing of A600GS. That is also my personal opinion.
The first impression is not appealing enough. Very simplistic... it looks like a black modem from old days or external floppy drive. OK for legacy mouse/joystick ports, I assume that this move can enable existing classic Amiga users to use existing equipment - but price for that DB9 ports is too high - more USB ports is needed. But of course that problem can be solved with more appropriate housing (maybe in A600/A1200/CD32 style or something else)
Maybe third party hardware can offer something more attractive, but it would be even better if Amigakit offer that as a standard in the future?
That is really the only thig that I dont like. But its correctable.
I have A1222 only as a motherboard also and I assembled it in mini-ITX housing and it loks much better than original, with RX580 inside. No space or cooling problems.
On the other side the delivery boxes of A600GS and A1222 motherboard are very attractive. Totaly different style and that part looks appealing. Some other crew designed this part?
-dooz
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Re: A600GS Posted on 12-Oct-2024 16:07:58
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Now I dont yet own a A600GS, but if the DP9 ports are setup right they allow for much lower input latency than USB (just like the real Amiga and the minimigs joystick ports) dose which makes a really big difference for some games. Without them playing some amiga platform games and other games that need pixel and frame perfect timing are just about impossible.
So having real amiga joystick support is a big selling point, but only if you play the type of games that need them.
Now as I own a lot of real Amiga hardware, and a minimig I am probably not going to buy a A600GS at this time, as I am far more interested in PiStorm (for my A500+ and A1200) and MiSTer FPGA projects. Still having had to have everyone of my Amiga boards recapped and needed to have other board damage repaired in more than one case I can see a future need for other hardware options with real amiga joystick port and preferable an option for RGB out to connect to a CRT screen. Plus all the work put into AROS as open Amiga binary compatible OS something worth supporting in my opinion.
As such I maybe interested in buying a A600GS in the future, but only if its a stable project that offers good compatibility with classic games and software and preferably supports Amiga OS3.2.2.1 with the same or better performance as a Pi Zero 2 or better and has working JIT CPU emulation to offer a good level of performance.
At this stage the A600GS is close to being a product that I would buy but it does not seem to be quite there yet going by the reviews I seen so far on youtube. I feel the price is far for the combination of software and hardware you get for the price, but they need to do a bit more work perfecting the software before it would work for me. _________________ Sam440ep 667mhz, 512MB, 120GB 2.5" HD, OS4.1FE WinUae 3.0.0, OS 3.9, BB3, Catweasel MkIV Amiga 1200, Blizzard 040/40 (BlizzardPPC 060/200 with SCSI removed at present), mediatorSX pci, Voodoo3, PCI network card os 3.9BB2 4MB Minimig with ARM addon boar |
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Re: A600GS Posted on 12-Oct-2024 22:40:53
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The Greazeweazle is available via your shop, are there any plans of drivers for the A600GS?
64-Bit ARM Linux is supported by Greazeweazle drivers, could they be installed somehow?
ps.: Here is a demo of Greaseweazle on Amiberry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iap6u4iaHIY Last edited by OneTimer1 on 12-Oct-2024 at 11:39 PM. Last edited by OneTimer1 on 12-Oct-2024 at 10:52 PM.
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