@BigD

Nope, I personally do not see point. Already have Mini.

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So did anyone here take the plunge and preorder THEA1200?

@F0L

If it is the same PCB as the Mini then I agree but in all honesty I didn't expect you to be in the market for one when the form factor is like the A1200NG. There's surely only room for one new A1200 footprint computer in the AmigaKit offices?

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@BigD

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I didn't expect you to be in the market for one when the form factor is like the A1200NG. There's surely only room for one new A1200 footprint computer in the AmigaKit offices?

WIll you be keeping your TheA1200 at your employer's premises?

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@BigD

Same reason I will not have an NG. Pointless for me. GS is perfect size for my computer room.
Plus as I'm involved in upgrades, easy for me to jam a OPI 5 Pro in it. I'll make it fit, :).

Unfortuantely, you wont be able to do any of that with A500 mini or TheA1200.

@Rob

Not interested in it or NG. Its a personal choice. Either would be wasted on me.
Besides, I'm guessing from conversation, that TheA1200 is not that more powerful than mini.

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I was only joking! I like Chris will stick with the Mini rather than THEA1200 (unless it's more powerful with more USB-As) and I will do my Octamed 4 composing on a real A1200!

I'd love an Amiga at work!

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@F0L

It looks like THEA500 Mini can be modded with a serial port/null-modem functionality too!

Converting the A500 Mini to an Amiga 4000 inc null-modem functionality

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@BigD

Sigh, why????????

Look at all the messing around you have to do. Users are doing this stuff. Again RGL are off the hook, you really are a FAN Boy, there is nothing they can do wrong, is there.

Mini, should have wifi, serial and joyports as standard. Not any of this faffing about, you so seem to love. The mini is what it is, a massed up version of the Spectrum Vega hardware.

Besides, your in the wrong thread. This is TheA1200 thread.

No I wont be modding mine, can't be fussed for a feature I will never use. All I want to be able to do, is alter games menu, with games I want on there.

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@F0L

Nope, since the PCB will likely be exactly the same as the Mini this mod will be just as applicable for THEA1200! There might even be space on that full sized case to fit the serial port neatly!

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@BigD

LOL.

However, your messing around, hacking and butchering. Time and hassel for something that should have been added if they cared about your specific needs and wants.

That's like buying a TV and you have to mod it just to get ITV. I wouldnt bother personally and Im sure there are a lot of others who wouldn't (proberly around 99.9%).

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@F0L

Actually, the running of wires between two Amiga Minis seems relatively straight forward (total of 6 solder points) with only a connection to a real Amiga needing a bit more work for a proper serial port. That's my understanding anyway.

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@BigD

Well enjoy the messing around.

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@F0L

The difference is that with TheA500 all the "hacking and butchering" is the by the owner, leaving RGL free of responsibilities, while with the GS/NG systems, AmigaKit is doing all the "hacking and butchering" and also carry all the responsibilities. Which "business model" is the safest one when these Linux systems end up being maliciously exploited do you think? Let me remind you that AmigaKit aren’t even capable of monitoring their own services properly. Can AmigaKit afford it?

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@kolla

Nice trolling.

Let me remind you that you monitor it for free for them.

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@F0L

Are you suggesting I should also monitor all GS/NG systems?
Allrighty then…

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System is Delayed to December 4th.

due to chip shortage, rising costs and OS development.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1414201143844347&set=a.702114485053020

It is interesting if we do actually get any OS development? I mean I thought it would basically work the same as A500 mini with just maybe a small Workbench Os system set up.

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I really wonder what they put in floppy drive space ? is it staying a hole in the case where you see inside as there is no floppy ? :))

I check the photos they released ... they never took photos from that side ... there is one photo but it's cropped you cant see the floopy side.

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System is Delayed to December 4th. due to chip shortage, rising costs and OS development. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1414201143844347&set=a.702114485053020

The shortages and rising costs are due to the Iran war. The chip problem is due to lack of semiconductor grade helium for chip fabrication and the plastics problem is due to petrochemicals used to produce plastics. The helium problem is severe and may get worse before it gets better.

o up to 35% of global helium supply came from the Persian Gulf
o semiconductor grade helium is 99.9999999% pure and processing is high tech
o there are only 2 semiconductor grade helium facilities in the world
o one of the facilities is the Ras Laffan facility in Qatar
o Ras Laffan was hit by a drone: -17% LNG export, -14% helium output, 3-5 years to repair
o helium is a byproduct of natural gas production
o the largest natural gas field in the world is between Qatar and Iran in the Persian Gulf
o there are no helium pipelines near the Persian Gulf for rerouting, unlike oil/gas pipelines
o storage is challenging because of small molecule leakage and liquefied helium evaporation
o most semiconductor fabs only keep about one week of semiconductor grade helium
o TSMC, Samsung and SK Hynix rely on the region for over 60% of their helium
o spot helium prices surged 70% to 100% while contract prices have increased by up to 40%

https://astg.com/blogs/news/the-helium-crisis-no-one-is-talking-about-it-s-not-supply-it-s-purity
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Iran-War-Triggers-Helium-Shock-Threatening-Global-Chip-Supply.html
https://smithweb.com/market-intelligence/helium-shortage-update-april-9-2026/

Shortages of semiconductor grade helium could cause fabs to stop production of the least profitable chips, likely older cheaper chips possibly used in THEA1200. Opening up the Strait of Hormuz will not be an immediate fix. Logistics will take time to normalize and there is damage to production. Oil, gas and petrochemical prices are expected to remain elevated through this year at least and I expect the same for helium. More helium could easily be captured from natural gas production here in the US but processing to 99.9999999% purity requires significant capital investment in facilities and likely years to build. I expect it is similar to rare earth metal processing, another supply chain vulnerability the US has been working on for years.

Could an air ship be brought in over land to the Ras Laffan facility where it is filled with semiconductor grade helium and fly to Taiwan? It would probably be easier to escort out liquefied helium carrying ships.

Some of these problems are self inflicted. You reap what you sow. Most of Europe has divested, defunded, over regulated, and over taxed oil, gas, refining and petrochemical production, practically out of existence.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Energy-Security-Concerns-Force-the-EU-to-Reconsider-Domestic-Gas-Drilling.html Quote:

Domestic gas drilling has not been particularly popular among European governments over the past 20 years or so, as the bloc preferred to source its natural gas from external suppliers, notably Norway and Russia. With a ban on Russian gas set to take effect from next year amid a severe deterioration in relations with Brussels, Norway and the United States remain the only large suppliers now that Qatar is out of the picture for at least a couple of years. ... From a pragmatic perspective, domestic gas production would be a good decision. However, there is a fear in EU circles that reversing the bloc’s attitude to local oil and gas supply may harm climate ambitions and net-zero targets. That’s why the document cited by Reuters included the condition that the consideration of domestic gas production must be done with a view to such production not “locking us into carbon-intensive systems that undermine our long-term climate goals�. Natural gas production in member states of the EU has dropped by 50% over the past ten years as investments have been pressured by net-zero plans, and imports have surged under the assumption that foreign gas will always be there.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germany-Seeks-Israeli-Jet-Fuel-As-Hormuz-Disruptions-Cripple-Airlines.html Quote:

The supply problem itself has been building for years. Europe shut down or converted dozens of refineries over the past decade and became increasingly dependent on imported jet fuel from the Middle East. Roughly a third of Europe’s jet fuel demand was imported last year, with most of those imports tied directly or indirectly to Gulf supply routes. Now those flows are disrupted, U.S. cargoes are being redirected toward Asia, and European airlines are competing for replacement barrels in an increasingly tight global market. The IEA has warned Europe may have only weeks of comfortable jet fuel supply left if Hormuz disruptions continue.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/BP-Considers-Retreat-From-North-Sea-Amid-Mounting-Tax-Pressures.html Quote:

BP is reportedly eyeing a potential exit from the North Sea as the tax load on energy companies seems unlikely to be eased with the Iran war. ... A BP spokesperson told Bloomberg that it had a “strong North Sea portfolio with significant untapped potential, supported by a highly skilled workforce�, and did not comment further. ... The energy profits levy, introduced by the previous Conservative government and championed by Labour, and the ring fence corporation tax means the headline tax rate for companies in the North Sea is 78 per cent. Prior to last year’s Budget, OEUK boss David Whitehouse said the fiscal regime meant oil and gas production in the North Sea could collapse “within years�. It has argued that the tax rate stopped companies from investing in the region.

I see new calls for windfall taxes, additional taxes on the industry, to further discourage investment. I see more calls to double down with green energy but why is it not solving Europe's energy needs after so much investment already?

There is pro-green propaganda from the left here in the US too. Anti-business/anti-capitalist communists and Putin funded groups love the green energy push to shut down these "dirty" industries. It started as cleaning up pollution and moving away from coal to cleaner natural gas which the US mostly did. It did not stop there though. The previous solutions of natural gas and nuclear power then became targets. The most extreme loonies would have us giving up cars and going back to horse and buggies if horses did not release so much methane. The loonies here are calling for windfall taxes and declaring emergencies too when their taxes and regulations already push gasoline prices up more in liberal states than the profits of oil and gasoline producers. So far the loonies here have failed but Europe reaps what they sowed.

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It is interesting if we do actually get any OS development? I mean I thought it would basically work the same as A500 mini with just maybe a small Workbench Os system set up.

I doubt RGL is talking about AmigaOS development. AmigaKit is also not investing in AmigaOS development or AROS development. Some of their software for the A600GS is just pass through to Linux/ARM and will not run on other 68k Amiga hardware. Emulation of the Amiga results in Linux related software development. FPGA simulation of the 68k Amiga results in more 68k Amiga software development and AROS development, which would have been AmigaOS development if it was cheaper and more open. Hardware that lacks value better be cheap and free AROS and Linux are winning out even in the Amiga market. The AmigaOS has been priced high by Hyperion even though the AmigaOS lacks modern features like SMP and security. AmigaOS prices are like ball game concession food prices. Food for the classes instead of the masses. The same for AmigaNOne hardware. This is a different market than the Commodore market. Commodore’s most famous slogan was "Computers for the masses, not the classes". Also, they often highlighted value, using the tagline, "You can't buy a better computer at twice the price." A-Eon's slogans with the AmigaNOne should be, "Computers for the classes, not the masses." and "You can buy a better computer at 1/10 the price." Will the 68k Amiga return to good value standard hardware for the masses using a standard AmigaOS now that Mike is regaining power?

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@matthey

No giving up cars required, plenty of awesome electric cars to choose from in 2026. Way more coming next year and in 2030.

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I think it's odd that rising costs of chips and plastics is blamed for a delay to the "OS". I can only assume that they had to change the chips they were going to use to stay within costs and so had to alter the code to work on the new hardware configuration. Glad that I didn't pre-order this yet as I was put off by the lack of information including specs.

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No giving up cars required, plenty of awesome electric cars to choose from in 2026. Way more coming next year and in 2030.

Every kind of vehicle is a compromise. EVs are nice for big cities with adequate infrastructure for them, they reduce smog which is important in big cities and are good for short trips and light loads. Increase the battery size for longer distances and heavier loads and they become expensive and less environmentally friendly. Fuel efficient ICE vehicles are better in rural areas where it does not make as much sense to build electric vehicle infrastructure and are cheaper for long distance travel and heavy loads. Hybrids are more convenient than EVs for longer distances but are also compromises sometimes not being much more environmentally friendly than ICE vehicles. I have nothing against green energy but please do not subsidize it with debt, force it on people and justify the force based on past environmental lies which failed to come true. Florida is not under water like Al Gore claimed would happen long ago, food production increased with more CO2 rather than mass starvation claims and warmer weather saves lives compared to cold weather. Human activities have likely shifted the climate some but the climate alarmism is out of control and turned into a boondoggle.

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I think it's odd that rising costs of chips and plastics is blamed for a delay to the "OS". I can only assume that they had to change the chips they were going to use to stay within costs and so had to alter the code to work on the new hardware configuration. Glad that I didn't pre-order this yet as I was put off by the lack of information including specs.

The launch date was set back from June 16, 2026 to December 4, 2026. The large change is suspicious and so is the OS delay. Do they charge payment accounts for pre-orders when they are placed or when they ship?

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