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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 9:31:04
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Thanks for filling us in on the redesign. It's very comforting to have a real person attached to Troika, considering all the strange actors who have been on the Amiga stage and maybe still are.
You're not evil, I hope? 
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 9:40:39
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No matters, I'll hope your board will be ready as soon as is possible. Good look, my friends!
EDIT: good LUCK , not good look. My engrish is wonderful Last edited by MazinKaesar on 18-Oct-2005 at 09:43 AM.
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 9:45:33
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Thanks for the update. It's good to see. _________________ Sam |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 11:38:50
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| Since we posted this little informal bit of news regarding the prototype on the nordic portals a little while ago, we thought it might be best to inform the english readers aswell.
As a direct result of the cooperation between Guru Meditation and Troika Partners, we're now happy to inform you about the following changes in the specifications. The form factor has changed slightly, allowing for 1 AGP and 2 PCI slots. The AGP slot is working in PCI mode. Furthermore, there has been radical changes in the bus layouts. Several of the components are now running at 66MHz, compared to 33MHZ for everything before. Notably, the AGP slot and the ethernet chip. The number of layers has changed from 8 to 6, reducing the cost to produce the board. A small number of chips has been removed from the layout, reducing the cost further.
We feel that this now gives the consumer the best expandability and choice, while increasing overall performance of the board. Now some people say changing the form factor is a big thing. It's not. We merely expand the board slightly, giving us a little more room for an additional PCI connector.
Now, it's important to keep in mind that this is an ever changing process. What you see above might not be the case once the product becomes available for the general consumer. Most of this information you see here has already been posted in the FAQ on the Troika website, but it might be hard to get a good overview of the changes to date.
(Edit: Since we don't want misinterpretations, the above text may not be translated or copied over to other forums/sites without permission from us. ) Last edited by GuruMeditation on 18-Oct-2005 at 02:02 PM. Last edited by GuruMeditation on 18-Oct-2005 at 11:40 AM.
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 11:49:02
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Great news ! The board is getting better and better. _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 11:53:03
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you see here has already been posted in the FAQ on the Troika website |
Really? Then we don't see the same FAQ page. 
Anyway thanks for the update._________________ Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci Sam460 1.10 Ghz AmigaOS 4 betatester Amiga Translator Organisation |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 12:04:53
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, great news. Looking forward to getting my hands on one _________________ Dark Lord Design Wicked Solutions For Damned Problems |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 12:24:48
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As the board is developing further, can you tell us a date (2005/beginning / end 2006) when the board is supposed to be available to the Grand public? (I know you won't nor can't tell us a concrete date, but some hint would be great!)
Many Thx!
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 12:30:05
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I dont know how such a drastic change can be implemented - to move a slot is one thing, but to add another slot and up the bandwidth available.. Wouldn't Steady have posted about this?
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 12:34:13
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| @Bobsonsirjonny it does say this on the bottom of the FAQ .......... Quote:
For the most part yes. However the pre-production specification is listed. We must allow for changes due to market conditions, and planned improvements. Both Amy'05 and this web site have modifications in the works.
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When did u get back butt ??? Had to look @ the name twice to check it. WB.
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 13:21:17
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This is great news! I cant wait to get my hands on this board and finally OS4! I had better start saving my pennies now!!
I love the cost reduction too. 
Thanks, Amiboy _________________
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 13:37:37
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yo bobson! welcome back to the dugout.
this motherboard is sounding better all the time. i hope the price is not skyrocketing at the same time. _________________ Win•dows: n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition. |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 13:40:08
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 14:10:07
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That's wonderful. Now all you have to do is make the CPU upgradable and presto! You'll have a fairly decent Amiga-1 type system ready to go.
(Seriously guys that pokey little 800mhz CPU ain't gettin' it.)
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 14:13:58
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Dude Welcome back mate
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 14:26:25
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Cool update. The upped specs make the board much more interesting IMHO Thanks for sharing the info. Keep up the good work! |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 14:29:45
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Well I don’t know, if the memory controller is faster on Ami’05 and it uses a 66mhz PCI bus configured as AGP, and has faster Harddrive controller, then maybe 800 mhz is not half bad, for video playback, AmigaOne-XE some times need to drop some frames while playing films whit Mplayer, so maybe all that is needed is new memory controller chip, whit better support for cashes, I’m starting to get excited by this new model, If I where not in need to buy a new car right now, then maybe buy Ami’05, and sell my AmigaONE or maybe not. _________________ http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/ Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS |
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 14:31:57
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Nice to see you posting again..........
Oh! and nice to meet you at BB3.
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 14:47:15
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yeah great guys!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Troika Amy speculation.. Posted on 18-Oct-2005 16:31:04
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| Those are some interesting and also needed changes. I can only say that with these specifications it is a for more better motherboard.
I'm looking forward to the proto and I hope that will workout in a small time span. _________________ AmigaOne-XE G3 OS 4. A4000 PPC A1200 PPC |
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