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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 21:49:12
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Well, it's a bit like politics. Noone cares about it until some guy calling himself the new führer comes along and starts a new world war... _________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 22:04:23
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Well, it's a bit like politics. Noone cares about it until some guy calling himself the new führer comes along and starts a new world war... |
What an utterly stupid and tasteless comparison.
I guess you should take a walk outside, breath some fresh air and... relax a bit. Last edited by polka. on 08-May-2006 at 10:06 PM.
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 22:05:20
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I've never said anything close to "poor innocent" Amiga Inc. nor do I think this is about Amiga Inc. in the first place. This thread is about Genesi. _________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 22:10:31
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This thread is about Genesi. |
More precisely, this thread is about the question wether Genesi could still be interested in the Amiga market and what future options people could think about. So what exactly has digging out old BS and presenting it in such a clearly biased and unbalanced way have to do with this?Last edited by polka. on 08-May-2006 at 10:11 PM.
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 22:34:45
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What an utterly stupid and tasteless comparison. |
It's extreme, I'll gve you that. But I still think it's spot on. To say that you don't care about who runs the show just tells me that you are not aware of the consequenses. If you care about the Amiga and wether it will ever become available in stores again, you should care about who runs the show. With Genesi at the helm, AmigaOS might very well end up like MorphOS today; partially open sourced due to unpaid salaries, exlusively tied to Genesi's hardware and forget the clause where Hyperion would assume all the rights to the AmigaOS4 product line in case of a bancrupcy._________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 22:56:53
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So what exactly has digging out old BS and presenting it in such a clearly biased and unbalanced way have to do with this? |
Ask BBRV who brought it up in his blogg._________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:02:14
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:07:26
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ith Genesi at the helm, AmigaOS might very well end up like MorphOS today; partially open sourced due to unpaid salaries, |
Do you mean unpaid licence fees and with an open source desktop? As this is the only open source thing about it. Don't bring up things you don't know anything about._________________
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:10:17
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Re: Is Genesi still intersted in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:34:46
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Unless there are massive numbers of people reading AW.net without logging in, AW.net's contribution to those "1500 people" is marginal at best. Stats from a couple of months back suggest 250 people or less logging in on any given day; 1000 or less in any given month.
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:40:51
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As this is the only open source thing about it. Don't bring up things you don't know anything about. |
Did I say anything about how much that is open source in MorphOS? Nope._________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:45:35
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| Surely AROS is the right way to go? AOS4 & MorphOS although very cool, will always be limited to expensive limited hardware. I really want AROS to catch on, because I see it as the only way the community can dig itself out of this reliance on hardware factors. Give the developers a pat on the back for developing an open source implementation of AmigaOS. I just wish the Amiga community would embrace it more. I know there are parts missing, but its miles better than 3.1. It just need some extensions, and polish.
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 8-May-2006 23:48:58
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Then refrain from posting on "what MorphOS ended up being" (not a quote, before you go into your ultra-pedantic mode). _________________
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:03:27
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Then refrain from posting on "what MorphOS ended up being" (not a quote, before you go into your ultra-pedantic mode). |
You yourself confirmed that what I said was correct (ie MorphOS is partially open sourced) so why should I refrain from saying it?_________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:10:12
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Or a lousy and pathetic troll, like yourself, that likes being publicly humiliated on a regular basis. _________________ - Ronald
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:30:03
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Well, it's a bit like politics. Noone cares about it until some guy calling himself the new führer comes along and starts a new world war... |
I hereby declare this thread Godwined. 
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:38:02
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I see, you are one of those. Well, go ahead have a laugh at me for claiming that the world is flat or whatever you people make out of what I say, I don't care. All you did right now was nothing more than personally insult me. Not that it bothers me much, but you should be aware that it doesn't portray you in a very favorable manner nor is it in compliance with the AW.net posting guidelines. _________________ Sammy Nordström, A.K.A. "Samface"
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:41:26
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Samface is actually correct in his statement. Although said in a flaming manor.
MorphOS is little bit in Limbo now it seems. 1.5 has been done since.. Well 2 years roughly?!? Only parts of it has been released by the respective authors. But many parts remains unreleased to this day. Will we ever see them? Only time will tell.
Btw you that know a little about the situation.. Who is the one that's holding the release back? BBRV and salory? Or simply Franks pride? Any other reason?
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Re: Is Genesi still intersted in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:45:30
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This was verified by the court. Yes, Genesi was opportunistic in requesting that the court's decision be extended to AmigaOS, but the judge denied the request. Case closed. |
Well, obviously your friend BBRV here doesn't seem to agree on that part. |
Are you twisting my words on purpose, or do you not understand what I meant? I see no indication that Genesi didn't accept the judge's clarification that limited the scope of his ruling to AmigaDE. Do you?
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Right. I'm sure we'll get an announcement about an announcement in ... two more weeks? 
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Re: Is Genesi still intersted in Amiga market? Posted on 9-May-2006 0:53:31
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[quote]This was verified by the court. Yes, Genesi was opportunistic in requesting that the court's decision be extended to AmigaOS, but the judge denied the request. Case closed. |
Well, obviously your friend BBRV here doesn't seem to agree on that part. |
Are you twisting my words on purpose, or do you not understand what I meant? I see no indication that Genesi didn't accept the judge's clarification that limited the scope of his ruling to AmigaDE. Do you?[/quote]
What I meant that Genesi don't agree with was the "case closed" part.
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We'll see...
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