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SlayeR__ 
Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
Posted on 7-May-2006 20:06:10
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All those who wants OS 4 and nothing to do with BBRV, remember the first red blue war ? what was it people fought over back then that they they wouldnt fight over again today ?

If the war will start over i hope not, not like i can make people not start it anyway.

Edit: geesh tpyoing

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And BBRV made that comment because he wants to shut who up ?

Edit: and i mean this comment.

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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
Posted on 7-May-2006 20:12:53
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@polka.

Right now, I'd much rather have Bill Buck and his mind games running the show than Amiga Inc. He might be an arrogant ass, but at least he cares enough about controlling the future of the amiga to keep coming back to it. Amiga Inc on the other hand seem to be doing anything they can to kill anything that isn't their pocketpc game franchise.

What was that old saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?

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And BBRV made that comment because he wants to shut who up ?


Pleeeease... Could we drop this historical stuff for a while and stop mentioning the stupid red vs. blue BS? Why don't we discuss about the future instead of constantly looking back? None of this is relevant anymore and many of us simply don't care about it anymore.

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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
Posted on 7-May-2006 20:15:49
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All bbrv want are free OSs.

They quit supporting mos, and they won't pay for AOS4.x at all.


If bbrv has cash, and/or influence instead, get FREEscale to buy Amiga Inc. and Hyperion Entertainment. Then the dispute will ultimately be over.


Then we need G4s at 1.7 GHz or higher, or G5s and DDR ram and AGP *8 or PCI-E (or X, I don't know what's current) MBs with 6 slots and 32 Megs flash rom.



Still, I vote genesi out, and Eyetech, Troika, or anybody else in.

 
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Posted on 7-May-2006 20:20:22
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Hi, welcome back dude...

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They quit supporting mos, and they won't pay for AOS4.x at all.


Does Amiga Inc. pay for OS4, or support Hyperion, in any kind of way? Hell, they even have their website set to a release date in 2005 and don't care about changing it although people have told them.

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If bbrv has cash, and/or influence instead, get FREEscale to buy Amiga Inc. and Hyperion Entertainment.


Why would Freescale want to do that?

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@polka.

Was it ever relevant, i didnt see it from the beginning and never cared who started and glad its over and hope it will stay like that.

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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
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Genesi is making what Amiga INc would have be doing, making hardware, making contacts, be Freescale and IBM partner and rolling the PPC ball

How would be now our situation if bill buck (VISCORP) had been able to buy the Amiga?

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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
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If viscorp had bought the amiga way back when (before the current amiga inc existed), we would have been spared red vs blue, and would have had plenty of time to get nextgen amigas into the mainstream. Whether we would have succeeded is a different story, but I think it's safe to say that we'd be futher along than we are now.

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Posted on 7-May-2006 20:32:20
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Hi, welcome back dude...

Hi polka.,

Never thought I'd be saying this to you, but thanks.

Quote:
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They quit supporting mos, and they won't pay for AOS4.x at all.


Does Amiga Inc. pay for OS4, or support Hyperion, in any kind of way? Hell, they even have their website set to a release date in 2005 and don't care about changing it although people have told them.

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If bbrv has cash, and/or influence instead, get FREEscale to buy Amiga Inc. and Hyperion Entertainment.


Why would Freescale want to do that?

Well, maybe, just maybe because they want people to BUY those damn G series CPUs they make???????


The Amiga WAS a 5 to 7 million seller and that was when computers were still relatively new to people in general.


They need something to fill in the void left by Apple, their ONLY desktop Gs.

 
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Re: Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
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If bbrv has cash, and/or influence instead, get FREEscale to buy Amiga Inc. and Hyperion Entertainment.

polka wrote: Why would Freescale want to do that?

Atheist wrote: Well, maybe, just maybe because they want people to BUY those damn G series CPUs they make???????


Believe me, the Amiga market is hardly a blip on the radar to them. They hardly care about a few thousand G3-G5 CPUs they could sell extra (being very optimistic here).

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The Amiga WAS a 5 to 7 million seller and that was when computers were still relatively new to people in general.


That is completely irrelevant in this discussion.

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They need something to fill in the void left by Apple, their ONLY desktop Gs.


And that exactly would then Hyperion and Amiga Inc. be (who don't manufacture hardware btw)? :roll

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Posted on 7-May-2006 21:12:43
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I hope both sides could do some business. When I say both, I mean Hyperion and Genesi, not Genesi and Amiga Inc.


Thats your words right ?, i consider hyperion sidetracking Amiga Inc. and working Genesi instead very unlikely.



"Working with"? You think Hyperion and Amiga Inc work "together"?! Quite recently Rogue used the phrase "brick wall" when talking about Amiga Inc.


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Actually, according to various sources, the TOTAL number of Amigas Commodore ever made were 5,292,200.

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Tempted to agree with you there actually !!

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Posted on 7-May-2006 21:16:05
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"The PC revolution is over ...
the computer revolution is not - Amiga"

"... and, the Judgement and the lawsuit are not either.


I'd pay real money to see Amiga Inc shut down in the most humiliating way by Genesi. I've got an expensive bottle ready and waiting for the occasion.



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"The PC revolution is over ...
the computer revolution is not - Amiga"

"... and, the Judgement and the lawsuit are not either.


I'd pay real money to see Amiga Inc shut down in the most humiliating way by Genesi. I've got an expensive bottle ready and waiting for the occasion.

Hi smithy,

I knew the red/blue war never ended.

 
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I knew the red/blue war never ended.


For most of us it did, for a small minority (e.g. you) it didn't end and apparently never will.

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Posted on 7-May-2006 21:45:27
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I knew the red/blue war never ended.


That so-called "war" was a sideshow. It kept people interested for 3 years while MOS & OS4 were in development and there was nothing new to talk about, nothing new to play with, nothing much happening. (I'm not saying the 'war' was sexed up because I know lots of people had real issues - but a nice side effect of it was to create some drama to keep people interested)

Today, it's utterly irrelevant and not an issue. It's not going to happen again. Most of the combatants have left or been discredited. Genesi and the MOS team have had some kind of divorce (not sure exactly) and it seems the Amiga Inc-Hyperion axis is "brickwall"ed also.

Anyway, I suspect your post is implying that I am somehow in a trench throwing grenades at you and your 'side'. But I'm happy to tell you that I'm not, and neither are most people who you disagree with, and that both sides reconciled long ago and don't exist anymore.



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Atheist wrote:
I knew the red/blue war never ended.

Hi smithy,

You claim...
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Anyway, I suspect your post is implying that I am somehow in a trench throwing grenades at you and your 'side'. But I'm happy to tell you that I'm not, and neither are most people who you disagree with, and that both sides reconciled long ago and don't exist anymore.


Meanwhile....

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I'd pay real money to see Amiga Inc shut down in the most humiliating way by Genesi. I've got an expensive bottle ready and waiting for the occasion.

You are ready to rejoice the humiliaton and elimination of a party, and would PAY to see it.
Have a ceremony ready for if it happens.

How much trash talk (insults) have you personally contributed on the net over this in the last 5 years?



bbrv should buy Amiga Inc. if they want it, otherwise, forget about it.

 
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Well, maybe, just maybe because they want people to BUY those damn G series CPUs they make???????


Hi Atheist, welcome back.

Imagine this: Freescale shipping AmigaOS4 with thier products. Impossible, you say? But you can find MorphOS on FS site. Also, Efika got some recognition from Freescale crowd. So you can assume FS would have "a few" Efika boards at hand.

- "Hi! What's this?"
- "It's a AmigaOS4, just released PowerPC Operating System."
- "OK, I have Efika on my desk, let see how it's like, OK?"

Now, we have to split Universe into A and B:

A)

- "Sorry, it won't run it. To run this you have to find a way to contact some company, that's rebranding Tao engine and makes gambling machines"
- "Ummm. OK. Lets move and see how Linux runs"

B)

- "OK, I just paid for the ISO and it will be here any minute now".
- "I'll get the beer and you print the SDK. We'll see how POSIX is this thing anyway "

It's a joke, of course. But if you want to be PPC OS you have to impres people from IBM and Freescale. I don't know how many tech-people from Freescale would care to buy unknown board from unknown company (as long they are not part of the gang, they are unknown) to run OS4.

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