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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 14:35:17
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@umisef

That was rethorical.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 15:30:10
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i don't see myself donating to it...

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 15:34:26
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@all
Why look at Anubis and AROS competing? They both aim to serve a slightly different section of the Amiga community. There are some former AROS devs coming back to work on Anubis, but that's not the same as saying AROS development will stop, because there are no signs of that.

AROS dev will continue. In fact, there are some very important developments with AROS happening at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if the next couple of versions of VmwAROS had a build of Netsurf (i.e. a modern browser), the newly improved dev tool chain and was natively bootable from a USB stick. These are all projects either completed or being worked on now. Looked at like this, AROS is set to become very friendly very soon.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 16:55:32
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@itix

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I dont see problem.


ehm...maybe TOO FEW users to support TOO MANY incarnations of same OS?

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 17:36:22
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This is a horrible idea in my opinion.. Would be better to focus on improving the software base of aros and improving the hardware support.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 17:41:20
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Anyone here ever use Matt Dillon's DICE C compiler?

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 17:48:29
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Perhaps the stripped down linux kernel etc. can also be used to update Amithlon in the uncertain future. And run as the core/host for dumb x86 rendering slaves of our low performance embedded CPU Amigas.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 18:04:45
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Wow, how many "inspired by Amiga"-OSes are around now that don't have much commercial success?

One more to the count.

Talk about splicing up the userbase even more..

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:07:46
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@steril606

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steril606 wrote:
Wow, how many "inspired by Amiga"-OSes are around now that don't have much commercial success?

One more to the count.

Talk about splicing up the userbase even more..


None of the Amiga inspired operating systems are going to have commercial success in the numbers you're probably dreaming of, why would they? However, Anubis-OS at least fills a gap in the Amiga-like OS world for those who feel the existing OS's don't fit their needs. It might not be best for me, it might not be best for you, but for those who have wanted the features Anubis claims to offer it is a great project. Live and let live. AROS still has many great things to offer.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:25:14
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@Tuxedo

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ehm...maybe TOO FEW users to support TOO MANY incarnations of same OS?


Maybe Anubis finds new fresh users. Surely existing 3000 Amiga users are not enough to support any OS. But there must be at least 300000000 million users not yet using anykind of Amiga OS. I dont think neither AROS and Anubis are competing for those 3000 Amiga users now hold by OS3, OS4 and MorphOS.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:27:15
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Why always Linux kernel ? Why not BSD ?

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:38:52
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@Darth_X

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Darth_X wrote:
Anyone here ever use Matt Dillon's DICE C compiler?

Yes.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:43:00
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@Tomppeli

Why not dragonflybsd.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:56:00
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@Tomppeli

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Why always Linux kernel?


Because it supports more PC hardware than anything else, except Windows.
It's a pragmatic choice, not an ideal one.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 19:56:35
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splitting aros up to hell and back first, then drive it off the cliff... now there is a new amiga-like-os coming and 10 new year of waiting for noting.... jesus christ what a bunch of dreamers and amateures, no point in giving money to bountys thats for sure... next time keep your wet dreams in your emails, dont make web sites and promote it on every damn amiga site out there... WE ARE NOT INTERESTED!

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 20:08:31
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@Phantom

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This reminds me like Windows: 95, 98, Me, XP, Vista all of these have different downloads.


C'mon that's not only incorrect but just plain silly.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 20:08:49
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@Templario

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why they to begin with new proyect when they haven't finish fully the current AROS


Why do you assume they should finish AROS first. Are they on some kind of contract? No, not at all! They are just few AROS developers (some left long time ago already), who want to do something different.

Not a single person related to AROS said, that AROS is going to be abandoned right now. Why should it?

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I tested it in x86, and VWware version and both version not works very fine


Well, I've heared similar comments from ppl who have tried OS4. Yes, all the amiga-like systems are more hobby-OS'es than anything else. Therefore you have to take some drawbacks and limited support for granted.

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if AROS not recognize one pendrive


Funny you mention that. AROS cannot recognize any pendrive - I'm working on the USB mass storage class right now :P

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one CD with multisesion


I take granted you haven't sent any bug report, have you?

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 20:13:11
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@Tomas

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Would be better to focus on improving the software base of aros


You assume that OS developers should port all the software possible? Go, ask Thomas and Hans-Jörg for OpenOffice.org and Firefox for OS4.1. Watch their reply.

Quote:
improving the hardware support.


You assume that we will either write the drivers blindly, or buy all possible hardware all around the world and write drivers. Funny.

You see, no matter how well AROS drivers would be, there will be always some hardware in the world which will fail. And that will be the ideal reason to complain how the whole AROS sucks. I know that, I've heard such complains more than enough.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 20:15:11
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@d0c

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WE ARE NOT INTERESTED


Actually, some of you do. Did they give you the right to speak for them? :P

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 9-Nov-2008 20:23:16
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@meet.mrnrg

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Scrap the idea unless you plan to be bigger than RedHat & 100% sure you can win.


Now that's inspirational.

So if you can't be the gorilla in the market you may as well not even introduce a product? Let's see... 1 billion personal computers. Even a marginal presence can be successful depending on your goals. A few of the short-sighted even seem to be emerging as billionaires.

It's amazing how many naysayers have stated their objections and this 'project' hasn't even provided more than a whiff as to what it intends to be.


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