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Termination license agreement with C Licensing

That's yet another beef I have with this site.
The licensing arm of Asiarim is/was "Commodore Licensing B.V."
Why can't people use the same term when referring to the same entity?
It's just not professional.

C= HOLDINGS B.V. ("C=Holdings") and "Commodore Holdings Corporation".
Nice touch. Are we supposed to choose the name we like? Heh.

Pardon me. At the left we have "Commodore Holdings", so that makes 4 choices now.

My favorite google on this though is that there are NO hits for "Commodore Technology Corporation". But if you DO spell the word incorrectly, like they did...oh just lol.

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Seems like it's not the only Commodore having issues.

http://www.commodore.com/

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so when can we set up a bounty and buy Commodore :p

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This from SEC today answers my prior questions. Heh.

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/120117/armc.pk8-k.html

(LOL)

Edit: LOL really needed to be in capital letters for that one

If he only noticed on the 14th, then sadly he doesn't read AW much. Heh.

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SO let me get this right. C=HOLDINGS B.V essentially went bankrupt and then someone ran off with the Commodore rights leaving the parent company essentially without the rights, which it paid for, on the Commodore name?

is that right?

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Posted in the "Massive Announcement" thread from 10 or 11 weeks ago:

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There has been a delay obviously.....due to circumstances beyond our control. Still looking good though.

source

I can see where there might be a delay.

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C=Holdings B.V. v. Asiarim Corporation et al

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Also on Justia

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Rather complete documentation just posted regarding the lawsuit linked to above:

Courtesy Barry Altman

Direct link to the .pdf

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I tried to answer some questions and give a brief summary in layman terms:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=680262&postcount=188

It's not the complete story, nor can I guarantee others would agree with me, but it should be fairly accurate.

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quite a lot of new documents filed

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terminills wrote: @number6 They charge you for the docs!!!!

Of course...

They're just keeping up the long established tradition of anyone vaguely associated with the Amiga or Commodore names of screwing folk out of every penny possible from it's corpse...

Why break with tradition...

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They charge you for the docs!!!!

Consider it a history course, and the charge is equal to your tuition. Heh.

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Brief summary, current as of today, posted courtesy Barry Altman:

C=Holdings B.V. v. Asiarim Corporation et al

No sooner was this posted than another new document dated yesterday has been posted:

April 11, 2012

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New doc just appearing on the list despite older April 12, 2012 date

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Once again, not all docs are listed on the website the day they are filed, so we have another new onslaught of docs appearing now.
9 new ones since the last appeared in April, but 1 not available electronically.

source

Enjoy!

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You know something, reading through all that nonsense between Commodore International Corp (CIC) and Asiarim Corporation there is only one logical conclusion you can draw from it...

Both parties are fighting over absolutely nothing...

Neither parties are actually producing anything that would be of use to an Amiga user or fan and all they have done is lock themselves in a never ending legal battle, where the only people who care about any of it are the law firms who are making a nice steady income from this nonsense...

Not sure what either of them actually hope to achieve at the end of it all but one thing is clear, if it ever does end not one of them shall be producing anything remotely "Amiga" like and of any use or interest to most Amiga users...

Seems pretty pointless and a total waste of money at the end of the day...

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not one of them shall be producing anything remotely "Amiga" like and of any use or interest to most Amiga users

right, but at least I've never claimed any of the owners cared about the users, so my conscience is clean.

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number6 wrote: right, but at least I've never claimed any of the owners cared about the users, so my conscience is clean. #6

Oooh, that almost sounds like you belong to or have a vested interest in one of the parties involved...

Not sure why you said that as I don't believe you have ever claimed such a thing so you conscience was perfectly clean to start with...

But why such interest in two companies whom in reality have nothing to do with what goes on in Amigaland these days...

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But why such interest in two companies whom in reality have nothing to do with what goes on in Amigaland these days...

Not much interest to me personally. I have more of a historical interest.
But honestly, all the owners examine how this could affect their interests, depending on the outcome. atm, that outcome is uncertain.
So, the longer any of these lovely lawsuits (and there are more than just this one) continue, the more difficult it is to make plans.
Let's not kid ourselves. This is not about the users. This is about each "owner" trying to cling to what they think they own. Look at where the energy is directed - lawsuits. Look at where the financial resources are directed - lawsuits. Look at where the time they could be applying to DOING something is directed - lawsuits.
I understand the owner's side of this too, but it's very hard to be sympathetic at this point.

Just my 2¢. I know nothing ®.

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A ton of documents removed?

From prior posts you'll see a massive amount of material through April of last year.
Is it just -my- browser? Or are they all gone from the listings?

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