@Yssing
Are you intentionally trying to wind me up? Read the g*dd*mn thread!!!!!!!!

@HenryCase

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AInc aren't going to help us out.

How do you expect them to? They don't have the source code!

But I think you may be misjudging to say they won't help out with an x86 port. After all, as you would have noticed, Amiga is an x86 software company. They haven't proved to be much different.

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Let's set the target amount for this bounty at $500,000 USD,

What the?!

I thought the point of this x86 thing was that it was dirt cheap. With a figure like that you've lost my vote.

But, I just wanted to remind you, about the Cell PS3 port. Closer than an x86 to a PPC. And despite money towards a PS3 is that going to happen. Nope.

@HenryCase

Didn’t you know that in the modern world things like facts and evidence will never help you make a point.

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@TheDungeonDelver

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they were not authorized to put OS4 on anything except what Amiga, Inc. told them they could.

Did Amiga tell them they could put OS4 on the MicroA1 and Sam?

@AmiDog

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Personally I hate doing lowlevel coding for x86. Can't stand wasting time in 2009 with an 8-register CPU...

I thought they matched the late 70's 68000 with 16 registers in the 64-bit version?

@TheDungeonDelver

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But please, tell us exactly how multi-core intel CPUs are outperformed by lower clock speed, lower bus bandwidth single core PPC CPUs. I'm dying to hear this.

I didn't know ARM were PowerPC cores. So why then are we using the PPC still when a cheaper ARM could do the job if contains a PPC?

And FWIW an x86 AmigaOS4 would have to use a single core 32-bit x86 CPU. And loosing 75% of registers would have to be taken into account. IOW an obsolete x86 CPU, but still fast none the less if they can still be sourced.

As you would kmow, OS4 doesn't even have multicore or 64-bit support on PowerPC yet.

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@HenryCase

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HenryCase wrote: @DiskDoctor, @CodeSmith, @Gebrochen Do you read? I'm going to explain this to you S L O W L Y... The aim of this thread (as fairlanefastback already explained) is to show that x86 OS4 is not going to happen because the funds aren't there to support its development. I recommend you read his posts again because it's all there. If you must have a target system, here you go, now STFU: http://www.alienware.co.uk/product_detail_pages/Aurora/aurora_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-EU-AURORA-R5&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT @all Running total... $13786.27 USD.

Certainly not why I pledged or the impression I got.
Simply absurd and I posted on page 1.

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@thread

Thinking about it $500,000 !

That should be enough to move OS4.x to YDL PPC machine!

Or build a custom computer from scratch!

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@all

Damn, I can't believe how many people keep missing the point of this thread. Its almost scarey. I'm hoping its not about a lack of reading comprehension skill, but instead laziness on the part of the offenders not bothering to read and jumping to the wrong conclusion. Thats still bad, but at least not as bad as the thought that they just can't "get it".

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@HenryCase

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HenryCase wrote: @DiskDoctor, @CodeSmith, @Gebrochen Do you read? (...)

I will read your posts again as soon as you read mine first.

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@TheDaddy

I like your point TheDaddy!
Also I think AROS should have a lot of more Videos / PDFs describing and educating us on their technology. From Architecture right through to design. Much like the Java VM tutorials and videos describes how the Java VM works.

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@BillE

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You have so many people SAY they are going to give you that much. Given the track record of this site, the difference between what people say and what they eventually do is astronomical in proportion. You will be lucky to get 5p out of the tight fisted buggers that want everything but want to pay for nothing. Come back when you have some real figures, otherwise you are no better than Bill McEwen with his outlandish guesses as to how succesful amiga Inc is.

Good lord people, think!

Your argument only makes HenryCase's point stronger!

HenryCase is saying, "we can't get enough money together for x86 port".

You "contradict" by saying, "people won't really donate this much".

Come on.. that just makes HenryCase's estimate an optimistic one.. And his whole point is, that this isn't realistic.

So, you only further proved his point. Which is that by even the most optimistic estimates, there is no way to pay for an x86 port.

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@HenryCase
While (a) I don't believe OS4 on x86 is going to happen, (b) I am happy with my Sam440, and (c) I have posted my unhappiness at x86 thread spamming, I am willing to pledge because I would actually like to see it happen.

My pledge is contingent on the port being completed within a 2 year time frame (waste of time otherwise IMHO), and that the port be to an x86 mobo that is easily available at the time the port is finished.

I pledge £220, and would consider doubling that (to £440, the same as my Sam440 mobo cost) if the bounty was properly organised (i.e. not another pie-in-the-sky AmiZilla bounty).

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@HenryCase

I'll pledge !0.01. Bounties lack proper governance and oversight, there's no penalty for not completing a bounty, and they don't put the money where it belongs, which is in the hands of a developer. As Hans pointed out as an example, progress would be much faster on his RadeonHD project if he could take leave of his day job. That means having the money in hand before the bounty is completed, not after, and that, of course, requires a contract and a means for seeking a remedy if the terms of the contract are not met.

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@thread

Here is my 2 cents...................................................

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I actually think a bounty could be a great idea if hyperion would go through with something like that. Even the mozilla project managed to get over 10k in donations.

@Tomas

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Tomas wrote: I actually think a bounty could be a great idea if hyperion would go through with something like that. Even the mozilla project managed to get over 10k in donations.

That further illustrates how much money this would take. No one has bitten at that 10k, and its been open and available for years. And thats for a single app.

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