@tlosm
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For sure my prefer os is os4 but on os4 have one core only running dont make understand the true machine power same is on linux but less than os4

And probably no one care about potencial of machine, if that potencial didn't utilizied by os in which we in interst :) We all know that linux have more devs, and can utilize all the crap, but we talk about amiga like oses, and what they utilize, not what they can (when, soon, 2 more weeks). That why all linux tests is out of interest. We interst in machine only because it run amiga like os, what can or can't do linux and how good can it be , also out of interest there (for most of us, of course).

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@tlosm

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probably you dont understand the point on osx i have the double of performances of linux on the same machine

That's funny, I don't.
And OSX is a lot easier for me to use, I rarely have anyone throw tar compressed packages at me that I need to compile for myself.

The performance advantages of Linux are fairly minimal, and until Vulkan is more common, Windows and DirectX is SO much better than OpenGL on other platforms.

@iggy

the point is linux have less then the half of performances on a newer gpu compared an old gpu of 2005. this because on osx the drivers was mede by nvidia and amd on linux ppc are the openources and much slower. on x86 there is not this difference because the linux drivers are made by house mothers. in any way on x5000 and 6570 on linux only now i can play without issue 1080p mkv because vdpau are enabled. i m able to play 4k 360vr too because last vdapu update... drivers make a really big difference. same is for uboot on os4 side. better is uboot better will be os4 performances too.

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@tlosm

i think you have to start to report your OS4 bench :)

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@tlosm

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tlosm wrote: @iggy ... difference because the linux drivers are made by house mothers.

do you mean the "holding/parent companies?" or is it "housewife"

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better is uboot better will be os4 performances too.

Is there a chance of a better UBoot then?

@Seiya

im nda on os4... dont worry when will be not more i will do . In any way i can say for sure it is the fastest os4 machine did 1 second for load os4 completly with all components from the kickstart boot image

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@Amigo1

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housewife

is it :P Lol

About uboot is a job of aeon and not of hyperion. We have experience on sam motherboards new and optimized uboot improve performaces and compatibility

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@tlosm
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im nda on os4... dont worry when will be not more i will do

I am also on nda, but product already done for end users and you can provide all the info which available for end users.

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did 1 second for load os4 completly with all components from the kickstart boot image

What ? 1 seconds to load os4 completely ? Lie. It is not. It take 40-45 seconds from power on till usable workbench, or 8-10 seconds for soft-reboot. It is only loading of kickstart modules probably take 1-2 seconds, but its just a piece in the whole boot process, which is not 1 seconds at all.

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About uboot is a job of aeon and not of hyperion.

Yep, hyperion only works on that amigaboot.sd or how it name was, which is called when user type "boota" in uboot

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Probably your x5000 is different from mine

Im more nda compared you

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@tlosm & kas1e

SSD HD for both of you?

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No im using an hybrid for my tests ssd and hybrid performaces are not so different on sata2

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@tlosm

Yes, Nvidia and AMD should be ashamed of how poorly they support the Linux community.
This insistence of proprietary drivers if thoroughly f'd up.

If they'd just give us decent documentation for the gpus, we'd have a much easier time writing display drivers.

@iggy

i m pretty sure if we had nvidia on our machines will had less issue and better performances . if i will have extras i will buy a new nvidia gpu and start make tests under linux ppc just for understand if will be less problems

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Someone able to do the benchmarks from http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2012-02-00011-EN.html with an X5000?

@DJBase

nice set of easy to do benchmarks there, this should be a separate thread altogether though

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@iggy

The Mesa Gallium driver for AMD's GPU's has been making leaps and bounds recently, with AMD contributing as well. It's not perfect, but miles ahead of the Nouveau driver for NVIDIA.

@WolfpackN64

That's cool.
I have a personal preference for ATI/AMD anyway.

Is that driver available for PPC Linux distros?
I need something to occupy my time until I can get some hardware to play with OS/2.

@iggy

I think Mesa is architecture independent, the newer the Linux kernel version, the newer the Mesa version.

The Mesa driver is usually installed by default on systems with AMD GPU's.

@WolfpackN64

mesa on radeon si board are not working on ppc.
mesa r600 working but gles and gles2 have endianess in colors

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Can knidly someone with x5000 add the results from what DJBase suggested to that thread plz?

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