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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:05:55
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:07:21
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:08:10
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"- 8640/8641d? Only 2 x8 PCI-E lanes, cannot operate in 16x mode. OUT"
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:08:39
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| @Fransexy Quote:
Then, What freescale CPU is at least dual core, draws less than 20W and have PCIe x16 controllers? |
Why no 8641D as mentioned already?
Wikipedia: The MPC8641D (dual core) is manufactured on a 90 nm SOI based process. 8641D draws less than 25W at 1.5 GHz. Well it supports "only" dual x8 PCI Express but it should also work with x16 PCIe ports.Last edited by DaFreak on 03-Jan-2010 at 01:10 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:10:21
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KimmoK wrote: @gregthecanuck
"- 8640/8641d? Only 2 x8 PCI-E lanes, cannot operate in 16x mode. OUT"
Is it possible to combine 2 x8 lanes to one x16? |
I don't think so. Someone will probably shoot me down in flames any second now. Even if it was, there are still two other 1x PCI-E slots. What will run them? There is possibly a bridge chip hiding on the motherboard somewhere. That's the kicker. |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:11:23
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Xena? Last edited by KimmoK on 03-Jan-2010 at 01:12 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:11:58
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| This is fun. Thanks Hyperion. My cash is waiting to be spent on this. |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:12:19
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Is that mounting holes for a cooler, or for a cpu board?
If for a cpu board, could it be upgradeable for various cpu's?
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:13:30
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| I guess this has nothing to do with A-Eon / MAP / hyperion etc, but I found an old site (2002) showing (effectively) set top boxes named Xena, and a second set of set top boxes running an OS named Enigma. There were no OM references in there though
Check out the Xena / Enigma / PPC set top box page.
My guess is also that Xena is a 'glue' chip to go from old to new. Maybe FPGA with AGA/ECS/OCS chipset, maybe it's bus logic glue to use old Zorro cards (although, why would one want to use Zorro cards on a new motherboard running a new OS?)
Xorro may just be a familiar sounding name to use along with Amiga. I think I see an Xlinix chip there just above the hidden 'Not Yet...' section.
tiffers Last edited by tiffers on 03-Jan-2010 at 01:18 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:15:40
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New custom case, new custom chip - clearly going to run 4.1. Someone is finally, FINALLY doing a new Amiga properly.
Is it really possible that the Amiga is back?
We even going ot have an 'A' name?
A1000?
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:18:15
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But the X on PPC460GTx is lower case and the cpu is not multicore |
Well, I quickly re-edited and added PPC460SX which is upper case, but you beat my repost, which is hardly surprising the speed this thread is going. Sorry. Well, just in case our SMP hopes are dashed it could be one of those chips. SMP would really be a MAP....but even supporting this board, with a single core chip could be the MAP for all we know. There's ambitious and then there's crazy ambitious.... and SMP, requiring a full redesign of AmigaOS is really really crazy ambitious. I am preparing to have my SMP hopes dashed. Are you?_________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment." |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:19:49
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:20:41
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:22:26
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There's ambitious and then there's crazy ambitious.... and SMP, requiring a full redesign of AmigaOS is really really crazy ambitious. I am preparing to have my SMP hopes dashed. Are you? |
Hmm. I think you're forgetting that all along they've said they were working on putting Memory protection in, and it's there but turned off. It's probably been developed from the very start, and now comes the time to turn it on, along with SMP.
You need SMP hardware to develop SMP software. Why not develop a nice board with SMP capabilities and then release another 'Beta' with it. Public paid Betas seem to have worked so far for Hyperion 
I really am more convinced that SMP is on the way.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:22:27
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This is not really my field but doesn't this imply that maybe we are looking at a 64-bit AmigaOS? Isn't 4 gigs the maximum amount of memory that can be allocated in a a 32-bit system? |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:23:04
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| All this is very exciting and I'd buy the new hardware if the CPU was powerful enough. However, if the hardware is in the bag, then the main thing holding back the Amiga now is software, i.e. Flash, Java support, proper Office package etc. Timberwolf would take care of the browser situation (in that OWB is good, but not a name that non Amiga people would recognise) so we know that'll soon be sorted.
I'm hoping the big announcement covers both the hardware specs and prices AND the software issues.
The other good news is that Amiga OS 4.1.x must now have inbuilt support for PCIE graphics cards as the new m'board has these - I'm hoping there is support for the current set of cards (ATI and Nvidia ideally), not ones that are hard to find in stores at a resonable price.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:23:10
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But he meant bridge chip, not a chick? _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:27:13
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but there is no known power chip below 20W ? |
There is. The AMCC Titan. According to this wikipedia page, it's dual core, 2Ghz, and consumes 15W. They started to send out engineering samples in october, 2009(!)... And it seems to me, the PowerPC name is basically gone, almost everyone manufacturing these chips uses "Power" or "Power Architecture" now... Now put the puzzle together. I'd say, the CPU issue is solved.  _________________ MorphOS, classic Amiga, demoscene, and stuff "When a bridge is not enough, build a Viaduct!" "Strip the Amiga community of speculation and we can fit every forum on a 720k floppy" (by resle) |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:27:36
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I'm hoping the big announcement covers both the hardware specs and prices AND the software issues. |
If Hyperion have a plan for rectifying the software support issue then they are on to a winner - but that has always been the elephant in the room._________________ Sam |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:29:52
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What ever it is, I know already that I want one. There was a thread here on aw.net which said that 2010 would be an exciting Amiga year. Indeed it will be, but it also seems like it'll be $$$, I have to buy a new machine!! I can't wait! 
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