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vox 
Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
Posted on 9-Feb-2011 2:02:02
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@Hans

Varisys VM31 board
http://www.varisys.co.uk/vm31.html

Add XMOS and XORRO bus and its quite X1000, no joke

Seems it wasnt that custom design after all, but thats OK

PMC/XMC form factor
2GHz PA6T-1682M dual core CPU (rev. B1)
up to 4GBytes DDR2 SDRAM with ECC
PCI/PCI-X interface 32- and 64-bit PCI at 33/66MHz
PCI Express interface x1, x4, x8, x16 (root complex or endpoint)
quad 10/100/1000 ethernet 2 links to bezel (RJ45)
support for external network interfaces XAUI
1MByte boot firmware (SPI)
PA Semi’s new PWRficient™ family of CPUs delivers ground breaking performance and efficiency: performance per Watt is up to 300% better than existing embedded computing solutions. The first PWRficient™ device – the PA6T-1682M – combines a pair of 2GHz 64-bit Power Architecture™ cores with AltiVec™ compatible VMX instructions, 2MB of on-chip L2 cache, dual DDR2-1067 memory controllers, and 24 high speed SerDes serial I/Os capable of supporting PCI Express, SGMII and XAUI.

The VM31 combines a PA6T-1682M with up to 4GBytes of DDR2 ECC SDRAM and quad Gigabit Ethernet interfaces in a compact PMC/XMC form factor. Carrier connectivity is available through standard PMC and XMC connectors, with support for PCI/PCI-X and up to 16 lane PCI Express. The XMC SerDes lanes can be reconfigured to support XAUI and SGMII if required.

Also available is the VSM1e carrier for XMC modules, supporting bench-top and PC-hosted development in PCI, PCI-X and PCIe x16 slots, and providing access to PMC and XMC user I/O signals.

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Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
Posted on 9-Feb-2011 2:07:32
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@vox

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Varisys VM31 board
http://www.varisys.co.uk/vm31.html

Add XMOS and XORRO bus and its quite X1000, no joke

Seems it wasnt that custom design after all, but thats OK

huh? i think you've gotten a somewhat mistaken impression here. while varisys does have other boards designed for non-desktop markets with the PA6T, that in no way suggests that the X1000 was not a new, from-the-ground-up, bespoke design. it was.

the two products have similar capabilities because they both make use of peripheral controllers on the PA6T die.

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Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
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@vox

Although I admire your enthusiasm you have reached a point where IMO you are just posting crap.

This board and the x1000 board have one thing in common - the CPU. Most of the specs you have cut and pasted are CPU specs. Most of the hardware interfaces on the VM31 do not exist on the x1000, and vice-versa.

So yes, the x1000 IS a custom design.


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@gregthecanuck

Thanks. I was about to post roughly the same thing.

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Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
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i have a few Q
aeon dont you think pa.semi is a dead end and whot is the next line of cpu ?
iff there will in time be another cpu will it fit or does it take a new mobo to expand.

will it be posible to put and pci card with a ppc in x1000 like an acc card for classics

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Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
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100 Mobo for developers at least!!!
Assuming that there is one mb on each white box.

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I suppose these are the empty pizza boxes from the poor, overworked Varisys test man!

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No, that is A-Eon assembly facility...

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@cha05e90

Oh, poor dudes.












I hope that this will help

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Quote:

gregthecanuck wrote:
@vox

Although I admire your enthusiasm you have reached a point where IMO you are just posting crap.

This board and the x1000 board have one thing in common - the CPU. Most of the specs you have cut and pasted are CPU specs. Most of the hardware interfaces on the VM31 do not exist on the x1000, and vice-versa.

So yes, the x1000 IS a custom design.




Never claimed it is exact copy, but that we can use Varisys Semi board as reference to most of the features X1000 will have + some new features like Xorro and more USB ports etc.

OK, understandable that the boards are not completely the same, however most of the design features remain the same (as well as it gives some nice trust in Varisys as hardware suplier). At the time being as not much information is provided, this "parallel compare" is best that we can see.

As everyone, waiting for official info

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@retro

I have the same questions about the PASemi. The only answer I can see is that they must have gotten a very good deal on some close-out surplus.

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@thinkchip

The PA6T CPU paves the way for the introduction of SMP with AmigaOS4.x. Also check out the new multi-core CPUs being developed by Freescale, in particular the 64-bit dual core, 2.2 GHz P5020 and the 8-core, 1.5GHz P4080.

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Quote:

AmigaBlitter wrote:
@cha05e90

Oh, poor dudes.


that pizza looks delicious!

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Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
Posted on 18-Aug-2011 19:19:07
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@ amitv

Wow that looks impressive.

Seems to be more beta testers than I thought...!

One thing though, I suspect that they may be empty... They look light, and would you stack 1000 boards like THAT!!?

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Posted on 18-Aug-2011 19:42:39
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@ddni
Some of the other pictures show closer views of the boxes. They look sturdy enough to stack 13 with a motherboard inside.

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@thinkchip

You're right of course, I was simply heading the doubters off at the pass

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Re: Official AW.Net X1000 Q and A Thread
Posted on 18-Aug-2011 23:11:54
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@ddni

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Seems to be more beta testers than I thought...!One thing though, I suspect that they may be empty... They look light, and would you stack 1000 boards like THAT!!?

Nobody in their right mind would stack boards like that, so I'm sure they were empty when the picture was taken. On the other hand, the goal was to get at least 100 beta testers, and.......

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Great news!

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I don't get this anxiety again reference boards. Using a reference design is a good thing! It means that you start off with something that actually works. Then you modify it to your needs, like adding Xorro, removing other stuff and what-not.

I guess the boxes are empty *now*, but the goal is that they will all be filled eventually (From the factory the boards would come many in one large box.)

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