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steril606 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 21:25:42
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@opi

Wow, you are really a cut above the rest (in that case, us)...

Congratulations, superior human being...

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recedent 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 21:45:57
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@steril606

With all Opi's sarcasm, at least he doesn't kick AInc when they're down. And yes, that would make him somewhat supreme.

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amigasociety 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:01:15
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@recedent

I have not been in AmigaDom for very long but can't see putting anyone down that at least tried. Even if they failed miserably, they at least took the bat to the plate and gave it a go. Whether it be for money only or the live. If no one took the bat, then we would not be at the point we are at today, that Hyperion is about to launch X1000 and carry on the Amiga line past 2010.

I guess we will see in the end but today I am excited for Amiga and it would be sweet if "someone" that really cares about Amiga get the name and try to use it again. I say the same for Atari. Atari is a brand now but just goes no place in big numbers. I wish some gaming company would try to make the first big game maker into a market leader again. Atari is still a cool name as is Amiga.

Maybe someone can form AtarMiga. or AmigAtari. hehehe



New gaming line to blow away Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. Also, introduce a new home computer line for the common man and bring the Power Without The Price Atari did and the awesome technology that Amiga had. Together, they could kick butt.

I know, I am dreaming.

tj

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steril606 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:20:49
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@recedent

Well, it seems he gets his kicks out of spitting on the people here (at least in that comment). Does that make him a better person, than those who got disappointed by Amiga Inc, and are happy they are gone now?

I agree that the crowd here and on other Amiga-related boards could react a tad less emotionally traumatized to events happening around their OSes, but I think his last comment was a little bit over the top arrogant. I usually enjoy reading Opis sarcastic comments, as long as he doesn't get too one-sided, but that one was unnecessary in the extreme.

If I had that kind of view about people on a board, I'd simply stop visiting that place.

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opi 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:22:29
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@steril606

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Congratulations, superior human being...


Sorry for trying to be reasonable. I would be last person to "defend" Amiga, Inc. Their faults are undeniable. Yet I feel that it's somehow ironic that people shift positions like that. There was lots of people who said AI is poorly managed and will never deliver anything. They where called trolls. Banned. People said that there's no PowerVixxen. They where called trolls. Banned. People looked funny at Amy'05 (man, it's five years already?) and they where called trolls, also.

Maybe if people who now hangs around corpse of AI, kicking it and calling it names would act before we got shafted we wouldn't be where we are. Maybe this community needs more skepticism not less? Even if I'm not in a market for X1000 (I wish I had +$1000 to spare) am I not able to ask question about XMOS access to system memory?

This "if you're not with us, you're against us" stance did more damage than good for our, already divided, community. AI was once "one of us", hence any questioning was consider to be rough act against "leaders of community", now, after Hyperion went into court against AI, this company was excommunicated and now you can freely post your favorite "Snowman" joke.

If you think that's noble, funny or insightful, please continue. And let me state my opinion. I'm as entitled to it as you're to yours.

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Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:25:07
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@opi Quote:
I will forever get kicks from you people bashing AI when it's not your darling anymore. From bottom kissing to bashing in one, swift, move, congratulation.

Think you need to get your eyes checked, because you appear to have tunnel vision...

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opi 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:27:51
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@steril606

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I usually enjoy reading Opis sarcastic comments


Thanks. (no sarcasm whatsoever)

Quote:
as long as he doesn't get too one-sided, but that one was unnecessary in the extreme.


Maybe (plus my limited command of English) it was a bit harsh, maybe I'm just going bitter. You know, I get this feeling reading this thread. I think: "Why? Why didn't you question this and that when it was important? Why are you so happy when anything popsup and so hateful post factum? Why can't we have a sane middle ground?"

Quote:
If I had that kind of view about people on a board, I'd simply stop visiting that place.


Sometimes I try to not post anything. I know that I'm rather hard on Amiga scene(you could call it tough love ) and I know I would just add oil to fire. This one I couldn't just pass. I still stand by my opinion.

(I like to talk with reasonable people, and I count you, Steril, among them, even if we don't agree in ten things and agree on one)

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steril606 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:40:35
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@opi

Quote:

opi wrote:

Maybe (plus my limited command of English) it was a bit harsh, maybe I'm just going bitter. You know, I get this feeling reading this thread. I think: "Why? Why didn't you question this and that when it was important? Why are you so happy when anything popsup and so hateful post factum? Why can't we have a sane middle ground?"

I know exactly what you mean. But if you start acting like in your last post, you are slowly becoming the devil yourself which you have been fighting here.

I hope you realize that...

Quote:

Quote:
If I had that kind of view about people on a board, I'd simply stop visiting that place.


Sometimes I try to not post anything. I know that I'm rather hard on Amiga scene(you could call it tough love ) and I know I would just add oil to fire. This one I couldn't just pass. I still stand by my opinion.

I know It's kind of difficult to not get a negative view on all these things happening here for such a long time, and there are threads, where I can just sigh, and shake my head. But as I said, if the day ever comes I start acting like Waldorf and Statler from the Muppets Show around here, I will be gone... ;)
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(I like to talk with reasonable people, and I count you, Steril, among them, even if we don't agree in ten things and agree on one)


Thanks.. :)

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opi 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 22:47:00
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@steril606

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I hope you realize that...


I do. But sometimes I'm just going into d#?ck mode. That's why I refused moderator position. I know myself too well. We're all just humans, at the end of the day.

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linnar 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 7-Feb-2010 23:52:02
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Mmmm...

http://www.commodoreworld.com/

Probably no relation but a bit strange, it is ....



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eXec 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 9:13:30
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@steril606

Quote:

steril606 wrote:
@opi

Wow, you are really a cut above the rest (in that case, us)...

Congratulations, superior human being...





Hahahahahaha MAN! Give me 5!

You are the KING!

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ID4 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 11:26:13
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From: Unknown

http://www.whois.net/whois/amiga.com

It says

"Status: client_delete_prohibited,client_renew_prohibited,client_transfer_prohibited,client_update_prohibited
"



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Pleng 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 13:32:27
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From: Unknown

@ID4

Yup, and were all those 'unknown's in there before?

Quote:

Registrant ID: Unknown
Registrant Name: Amiga, Inc.
Registrant Organization: Unknown
Registrant Street1: Unknown
Registrant Street2: Unknown
Registrant Street3: Unknown
Registrant City: Unknown
Registrant State/Province: Unknown
Registrant Postal Code: Unknown
Registrant Country: Unknown
Registrant Phone: Unknown
Registrant Fax: Unknown
Registrant Email: Unknown
Admin ID: Unknown
Admin Name: Unknown
Admin Organization: Unknown
Admin Street1: Unknown
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Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 15:16:45
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From: Norway

@HammerD

I think its sad that some one lots there jobs.

I most give Amiga Inc credit for getting things started, but I give credit for all work being done to hage partner (OS3.5/OS3.9), eyetech (AmigaOne) and hyperion (OS4.X).

we all know that Amiga Inc's had financial problems, and I'm happy that AmigaOS is safe in hyperions hands.

I wish every one that lost there jobs success in finding a new job.

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 08-Feb-2010 at 03:17 PM.

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HammerD 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 15:37:46
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Well I think more people (including the users) got burned by them. Unpaid wages, broken contracts, unpaid rent...coupon scandal....list goes on.

If Bill McEwan lost his job then I have no sympathy at all, sorry.

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BigD 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 16:10:50
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@opi

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that's unprofessional! I'm happy that Hyperion's page is alwa... Oh.


Another day gone and 'www.amiga.com' is still down. I hope Hyperion are saving up to buy the domain name when it becomes available. That would be the cheapest option to steady the ship. Obviously, all the IP would help to enable 'Amiga' branded hardware, but I think that 'AmigaOne' & AmigaOS branding is probably enough. Buying 'www.amiga.com' is a priority now!!

Should we start a bounty to help Hyperion purchase it?

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opi 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 16:22:54
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@BigD

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I hope Hyperion are saving up to buy the domain name


This may not be that easy. Expired domains has grace periods and sometimes registars buy them to put some lame SEO-BS sites on them. Also, according to DNS entries, it will expire on 23-Jun-11 so it's not up to grab.

This looks like "noone's home" situation where dead company, that assets are owned by someone without much interest, derail off the Internet. It will be fixed once someone will notice unpaid server invoice or something to that tune.

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linnar 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 18:38:15
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http://whois.domaintools.com/amiga.com


Registrant:
Amiga, Inc.
355 Gilman Blvd
Suite 201
Issaquah, Washington 98027
United States

Domain Name: AMIGA.COM
Created on: 25-Jun-94
Expires on: 23-Jun-11
Last Updated on: 16-Jun-09

Administrative Contact:
Pfeifer, Vince
Amiga Inc.
355 N Gilman Blvd.
Suite 201
Issaquah, Washington 98027
United States
4255579600 Fax -- 4255570090

Technical Contact:
Akey, Ray
Amiga Inc.
P.O. Box 887
Ravensdale, Washington 98051
United States
5194560176 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HARDHATHOSTING.NET
NS2.HARDHATHOSTING.NET

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Alkaron 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 19:57:08
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@linnar

I tried to phone 4255579600, via skype, but the number has been disconnected..

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linnar 
Re: Amiga.com down?
Posted on 8-Feb-2010 21:17:22
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@Alkaron

Quote:

Alkaron wrote:
@linnar

I tried to phone 4255579600, via skype, but the number has been disconnected..

Amiga.Inc seems to have moved from 355 Gilman Blvd
Suite 201. Possible that the phone is included in the room.

I do not think it sprinkled down firm. I think
to regroup and change business.

It may be possible to dump the name Amiga
and choose another name, though I doubt
to it

In the end, it appears likely that the cause of website closures
is simpler than we guess. Maybe upgrade your hosting server.

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