@AmigaHeretic

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AmigaHeretic wrote: In the case of the x1000 It seems like we have a "product announcment" except we don't know fully what was even announced. Let alone seen pictures, seen it being tested, etc....

We were shown a picture of the board as part of the announcement, albeit with a few parts covered. Also, we were shown a screenshot of Linux running on it. It's not much, and you could argue that a shot of "top" running on a DOS screen is easily faked, but given the track record of those behind this, it is safe to say that they have a prototype that runs Linux at least.

Hans

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@Hans

Do you have amnesia of how many false promises have been made to this community or what? There is nothing wrong with asking questions, it doesnt get us anywhere to be blind "fanboys" now does it?

@AmigaHeretic

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I'm thinking the x1000 is vapor at this point.

I hope not as I will have been wasting my time (and money).

Just a general comment - sorry I've been quiet on the forums for the past month. I've just returned from a short expedition to Antarctica. It was a fantastic and somewhat humbling experience. It was planned 18 months ago and unfortunately coincided with the AmigaOne X1000 announcement.

As for ACube, I have had and continue to have a close working relationship with them as those who have benefited from my Developer Hardware Loan/Donation scheme can testify. To date my scheme has funded and donated 16 OS4 systems to various Amiga developers (which includes nine full price SAM440 systems purchased from ACube). I have just signed an agreement to supply the 10th SAM system for another exciting OS4 software project.

The next issue of "Amiga Future" will contain a short Q/A article on A-EON Technology and the AmigaOne X1000. The website will be updated shortly (I actually thought it had been already) and more news will follow.

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@Hyperionmp: what about games that were announced and never released (Majesty: anyone ?) ?

It seems to me that even game ports couldn't be delivered, so I wouldn't hold my breath for a full custom hardware machine + software support for it.

That being said, I'll wait for the summer to be over before calling it vapourware... surprise everyone ;)

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@TrevorDick

Welcome home, and:

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The website will be updated shortly (I actually thought it had been already) and more news will follow.

I've been posting to you, weekly, in this thread about it.

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@realize

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realize wrote: @Hans Do you have amnesia of how many false promises have been made to this community or what? There is nothing wrong with asking questions, it doesnt get us anywhere to be blind "fanboys" now does it?

No I don't have amnesia. I remember the Boxer, various scams, the original Amigaone that never happened, etc. However, we know who the people behind A-EON are, and they have a track record of delivering on everything that they said they would. Hyperion also have a track record of delivering. Only a month and a half ago people were screaming about how bad it was that Hyperion wasn't informing people about their MAP. Then they did, and now a month and a half later we're already hearing "vapourware", and "announcements of announcements are bad."

Being a blind "fanboy" is not good, but neither is being too cynical, mistrusting, and in extreme cases, paranoid. People are of course entitled to their own opinions, but I sense too much cynicism.

Hans

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@TrevorDick

Very cool. Can't wait for the website update!

Sounds like things will be progressing along.

tj

@TrevorDick

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TrevorDick wrote: It was a fantastic and somewhat humbling experience. It was planned 18 months ago and unfortunately coincided with the AmigaOne X1000 announcement.

Lucky you. That is indeed a great and rare opportunity.

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@TrevorDick

*thumbsUp*

This news couldn't have come from a better mouth... ;)

Hope you had a fine trip, and looking forward to any news.

@number6

Ok, I see your posting. A-EON is Hyperion.


So, my original post still stands.


We have no full photos, still no CPU, no video showing booting, Hyperion have not said what the MAP entails (ie, what features of the x1000 that 'have' been told will AOS4 support).

Again, as I said Hyperion has no obligation to give any of the above.

I how ever then consider it vapor.


Reason being things like, an Announcement of an Announcement about CPU, no information that there exists even one board, etc....

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@Hans

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Hans wrote: Wow. This didn't take long for people to start calling it vapourware and complaining about an "announcement about an announcement." How long before we go full circle and get back to "why do they not tell us what they're up to?" Hans

I am one that has posted MANY times I wish we had open honest communication.

Playing website games and giving half info is not open honest communication in my book.


If Hyperion came out and said, "We are getting into hardware and are calling that division A-EON and we are working contracting to have a motherboard built, but we are not 100% certain on the CPU, but hope to have close to the following specs...."


Not that WOULD be open honest communication, but again we get half info and we are left to sort out what is "really" going on.

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@AmigaHeretic

Whatever that product is, I am sure that ominous Amigarobot that was sighted in Oslo has something to do with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=regUff-pHOQ

I smell a conspiracy to further damage the good will of the Amiga community though the means of vapour products, and that Robot knows something...

















(calm down, honestly...)

@AmigaHeretic

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Ok, I see your posting. A-EON is Hyperion.

ok, but I never said "A-EON is Hyperion."

If you read about Anthony, Trevor's friend and business partner, and realize that the two of them comprise 2/3 of A-EON, it's a leap to say "A-EON" IS Hyperion, isn't it?

#6

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@Hans

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albeit with a few parts covered.

Exactly! See my post asking for logical reason not to disclose the CPU at this point.

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@number6

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number6 wrote: @AmigaHeretic Quote: Ok, I see your posting. A-EON is Hyperion. ok, but I never said "A-EON is Hyperion." If you read about Anthony, Trevor's friend and business partner, and realize that the two of them comprise 2/3 of A-EON, it's a leap to say "A-EON" IS Hyperion, isn't it? #6

OK, more confusion, but I think I got it now. Still, no tangible stuff about the board....

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@AmigaHeretic

Most of your questions were answered during the initial buzz in January. Reread the 3000 posts for a recap, please.

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@AmigaHeretic

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AmigaHeretic wrote: @Hans Quote: albeit with a few parts covered. Exactly! See my post asking for logical reason not to disclose the CPU at this point.

I admit that I am curious as to why, but their must be a reason for it. This wouldn't be done just to play little games.

As for the other side discussions, Trevor has posted here saying that the website will be updated soon, so they are now irrelevant. Let's see what is revealed.

Hans

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@realize

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realize wrote: @DAX How do you say "useless" maybe this will put pressure on Hyperion to actually give real info on the board and show some pics - probably because a proto doesnt even exsist yet... so I guess it can be considered "vapour" atm. Its also quite mystifying how anyone could spend over $1k for anything that runs Amiga OS as there is NO SOFTWARE. The board could be somewhat useful if you could dual boot into linux and run that nicely, but I'd love to know who in the world Hyperion is going to have do Linux kernel for that board??

They have already showed a picture of a prototype running linux. What more do you expect?? A video?

@zerohero

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zerohero wrote: @AmigaHeretic Most of your questions were answered during the initial buzz in January. Reread the 3000 posts for a recap, please.

Really? I didn't think anyone even know what CPU it was using!?!? Did I miss something?

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@Hans

On a side note, if anything, not revealing the CPU at first points more to the direction of a real product than in the one of vapourware than anything..

If it'd be vapour, they could have said anything about the CPU, boasting what model they are using, etc.

I feel they have to play some kind of strategic game at the moment, probably because of an NDA, or maybe they get something more cheap if they keep silent for a little more while.


And, really, a little bit over a month, and people start crying "vapour"? The Amiga community is honestly special...

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