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Hammer 
Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 7:36:11
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@toRus

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Thank God it didn't. Mind that this was Dave's opinion in 2006. It wouldn't surprise me if today he believed that hardware is not as much important anymore and cloud computing is the future.

Cloud Computing... mostly X86-64(Intel or AMD) boxes i.e. refer to server unit sales.

Ask Him again.

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Manu 
Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 7:51:25
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@jcassara

I will wait until they actually have a product before I judge them. I don't count the "Phoenix"(http://www.cybernetman.com/) as THEIR product.
And yes bigbentheaussie's emoticons shows his enthusiasm, it will be nice to follow their progress and to see what he's so enthusiastic about. Maybe it's not much maybe it is ? Who knows, interesting times indeed IMHO.

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 10:48:42
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@clebin

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I think we'd all have a lot more fun with our hobby if we cast aside such outmoded opinions and got on with enjoying what's good about our community.


I think the problem is that there just isn't any significantly interesting Amiga related things going on, so people get bored around here and turn into futile fights with pointless arguments.

X1000s, SAM upgrades and Operating Systems finally reaching yesteryear's standards just isn't going to cut it. We'd need something useful, fresh and exciting new developments that would interest the "real world" and bring new users into the community.

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 12:42:28
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@ruben

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ruben wrote:
I think the problem is that there just isn't any significantly interesting Amiga related things going on, so people get bored around here and turn into futile fights with pointless arguments.

X1000s, SAM upgrades and Operating Systems finally reaching yesteryear's standards just isn't going to cut it. We'd need something useful, fresh and exciting new developments that would interest the "real world" and bring new users into the community.

Them's fightin words

Amiga + Standards.

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 12:56:25
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I wish I could some how make stupid threads just not be visible to me :^(

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 13:02:19
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@winnetcom

just deselect bash&trash-thread visibility option in your profile

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 13:34:38
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@Hammer

Gee, you take things too personally. But so do I.

First of all, I do have worked in the real business world. That is why I do not have much time answering many posts. In fact I am driving home and I had to pull over. You wouldn't want me to continue driving while typing on my Android phone or having in my car an i7 Dell computer.

You give a couple of links which mostly correspond to cross-references to press releases from the marketing departments and summaries of reports that clearly try to drive the computer-gaming industry into profitability by following dubious methodologies or making biased interpretations. Please try to read the whole report not just the summaries if you have time. You wouldn't expect me to write a thesis on 249 minutes, instead I might let my students do it next semester.

Nobody in the industry can foresee the future but should be ready. Believing that PC computing would rule the world forever is as wise as predicting that the world would need only 5 computers (IBM president at 40s) or that 640K RAM is enough (Microsoft president at 80s). I talked about "home computing", which nowadays means something else than writing letters in Word or doing accounting in Quicken. And believe it or not, you do need to have Dreamweaver to post in your blog, or an i7 desktop computer to chat in Facebook, or Adobe Premier to upload a video in YouTube. Creating content in the 21st century is rapidly changing, ask around some youngsters.

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Manu 
Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 14:07:18
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@winnetcom

I think it wouldn't be so stupid if the naysayers stopped trolling the thread.

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 15:17:29
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@Mechanic

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Them's fightin words


Well it's easier said than done, I know...

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 15:30:18
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@nimrod7

Wish you were serious...

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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 15-Oct-2010 15:32:24
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@Manu

Not interested and I hate the way these threads dominate the front page :^(

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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 18-Oct-2010 22:01:24
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@Manu
product update...case & keys will be original color. Amiga shots soon....

[url=http://www.commodoreusa.net/PC64.html]

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WolfToTheMoon 
Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 18-Oct-2010 22:06:43
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@digitex

looking good... now let's wait for the final official specs and the price

P.S. Digitex, do you work for C=USA?

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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 18-Oct-2010 22:14:16
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@digitex

Welcome!

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digitex 
Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 18-Oct-2010 23:37:31
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@WolfToTheMoon

Price:
There will be 3 prebuilt configs for the C64. There will also be a custom configuration option that will allow you to create any combination of components you desire. The basic unit will be be sold at the same price the original C64 was sold for 27 years ago: $595.00.

Specs:
Custom designed Commodore mini ITX form factor MB, Intel dual core Atom 525, Nvidia ION2 graphics, slot or tray load DVD drive, slot or tray load Blu-ray drive, up to 4GB DDR3 memory, up to 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM HDD, or up to 1 TB 2.5" HDD, on- board mini PCI WiFi 802.11b,g,n & Bluetooth combo card, custom designed keyboard featuring genuine Cherry key switches, steel plate construction with custom mapped key matrix and control circuit board, designed and manufactured in the USA, using 100% American parts & labor. (keyboard made by the same manufacturer as the DAS keyboard)

Facts: 100% designed and manufactured in the US. Highest %age of US parts & labor of any currently available computer. The case, keyboard structure and keytops, steel support drive brackets, wire harness, and major IC sm components, packaging and advertising media are all produced in the US.

Availability:
4th qtr 2010

...and tnx for the welcome, pavlor :)

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T-J 
Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 18-Oct-2010 23:48:57
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Does this look familiar?

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eliyahu 
Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 19-Oct-2010 0:27:14
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Does this look familiar?

wow. that's some 'customization,' there.

in all seriousness the only thing they bring to the table is the brand and the case/keyboard and despite the hyperbole from leo and sudden new forum members, i think most of us were expecting that. i still think people will be interested, though. if it doesn't look horribly cheap at launch, they'll probably sell quite a few.

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Hammer 
Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64
Posted on 19-Oct-2010 1:07:53
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@toRus

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toRus wrote:
@Hammer

Gee, you take things too personally. But so do I.

Refer to your statement "... leaving the few lamers.. " i.e. expect a return.

Quote:

First of all, I do have worked in the real business world. That is why I do not have much time answering many posts. In fact I am driving home and I had to pull over. You wouldn't want me to continue driving while typing on my Android phone or having in my car an i7 Dell computer.

Does "entrenched" ring any bell?

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You give a couple of links which mostly correspond to cross-references to press releases from the marketing departments and summaries of reports that clearly try to drive the computer-gaming industry into profitability by following dubious methodologies or making biased interpretations. Please try to read the whole report not just the summaries if you have time. You wouldn't expect me to write a thesis on 249 minutes, instead I might let my students do it next semester.


The point was the revenue growth trends in the PC world not specifically PC's gaming aspect. I could use Intel's revenue trends.

Information coming from PC download services such as Valve's Stream, Direct2Drive, StarDock's Impluse and 'etc' are 1st hand sources.

The original context was
Quote:

toRus wrote:
Probably not. But I wouldn't be suprised if PC is dead in the near future and most people have Sony Playstations, Android smartphones, Apple iPods/iPads, HP/Oracle/Dell servers, Google TVs, OLPCs etc leaving the few lamers that remain to run biased benchmarks in order to justify their inexcusable spendings into overrated technology



Quote:

Nobody in the industry can foresee the future but should be ready. Believing that PC computing would rule the world forever is as wise as predicting that the world would need only 5 computers (IBM president at 40s) or that 640K RAM is enough (Microsoft president at 80s). I talked about "home computing", which nowadays means something else than writing letters in Word or doing accounting in Quicken. And believe it or not, you do need to have Dreamweaver to post in your blog, or an i7 desktop computer to chat in Facebook, or Adobe Premier to upload a video in YouTube. Creating content in the 21st century is rapidly changing, ask around some youngsters.

The PC industry cares little about IBM.

The majority of PC's revenues comes from businesses. Facebook or Youtube doesn't actually help run the majority of corporations. Anyway, we blocklist such websites.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody" quote was misattributed to Bill Gates, refer to http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates



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WolfToTheMoon 
Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x
Posted on 19-Oct-2010 7:38:25
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@digitex

Thanks for the info! I can't wait to see it. 595 $ sound good.

Oh, a (late)welcome on my behalf also

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Posted on 19-Oct-2010 8:52:37
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@digitex

It looks like a hacked C64.

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