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Re: Amiwest 2010 - News
Posted on 24-Oct-2010 21:39:14
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@Daniel

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Only caught the end, any chance of uploading somewhere? Sounded good.


You'll have to ask @tekmage about that.

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@thread

Just a little something different...

For the 3 threads I started on Amigaworld.net, we are approaching 20,000 pages reads.
You can check that under Recent Topics

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Re: Amiwest 2010 - News
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@T-J

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Can you find out what the conditions are for A-Eon to tell us what the CPU is?

Is it that they have to wait for a certain date, or for their product to get to a certain point, or...?

i asked your question to trevor and he confirmed they are contractually constrained from announcing their use of the CPU in question until shipment of hardware. so this means they should be announcing the CPU around the time the hardware is released to the beta testers later this year.

can't ask anymore until i return to the show floor in an hour or so....

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@number6

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The answer is to use a more directional microphone next year.


You can make any recommendations you like to the show promoters.
I'm sure they would appreciate the input.

#6


I don't have one myself, so a personal recommendation would be tricky, but I'm sure any average one will suffice. Directional microphone isn't quite the right term, as this covers omnidirectional microphones too. See here for a small introduction to the subject:
http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/microphones/directional-characteristics.html

If the microphone currently employed is omnidirectional, try a cardioid type. If it's a cardioid type, try a hypercardioid type. Picking a product, how about the Samson C01:
http://uk.shopping.com/Samson-Samson-CO1U-USB-Condenser-Mic-RS-Only/info
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Microphone/product/Samson/C01/10/1

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@eliyahu

Yes, I was expecting something like that. But at least now I can let everyone where I am know the reason why they can't tell. Makes evangelising the platform easier.

It makes sense, too. What serious CPU supplier would want their good name damaged by a failed product launch? Especially if its Freescale or somebody like that. I'm confident Trevor will succeed, but they have to be cautious, I suppose.

Thanks for the answer!

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@HenryCase

I explained myself badly.
You would have to make a recommendation to those who do the broadcasting.
I can not guarantee that they will even read this thread.
Basically, they will pack up and go home after the show, afaik.
Write directly to @tekmage if you have recommendations please.

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@thread

Amiwest 2010 is now closed

Please feel free to use this thread for post-show analysis or start your own threads if you wish.
Thank you all for keeping this thread on topic during the show.
Much appreciated.

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@number6

Thank you very much for your coverage and coordination. It made a big difference!

Until the next show :)

Anyone have any videos from the events today ?

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hum i'm a bit sad, since there wasn't much news and reports on os4 progress lately,
i thought amiwest would be the event for announcing stuffs well a bit more..

- i'm surprised about gallium3d switch.. but that's a good news. it should broaden our possible choices for selecting modern gfx card to use. i don't know about ati cards, but on linux nvidia gfx card through galium/nouveau don't set fan speed, so fan is alway 100% speed and noisy compared to nvidia proprietary driver. hope this fan issue will get some attention. otherwise very good news.
amiga will get good 3d capabilities.

- i don't care about printing at all.. i never owned a printer. those device a near to useless to me. archaic and anti-ecology and expensive.
why bother with paper when i can keep my hand free and display stuff on just any screen wherever i go .. i'd be much more interested in the other way around: good scanner support. now that'd be useful.

- i thought we'd finally get to know about x1000 cpu.. good to hear a rev 3 is coming though.
- good news for classic users ..though no eta given
- no eta on os4 next update and not much news on latest progress either (what i was the most interested in)

it was nice to see carl coming to the show, i'm happy rebol got ported to os4 (i secretly hope carl will help on os4 itself and join the dev team even on a time to time basis.. though i think i'm only dreaming on this one ;) there was a meeting planned between os4 dev team and him .. i'd love to see That brodcasted :) but well, gotta enjoy what we already have.. at least he came and showed interest for os4 enough to port rebol. that's something.

- good to hear support for multicore is kernel #1 priority.
- no news about timberwolf

i expected a little more news on os4 front itself though .. but well at least thing are moving forward, and os4 next update should probably happen before the end of the year, hopefully. (just my guess here)





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@number6

I appreciated the opportunity to use MPlayer and MPlayer-GUI to watch the show.

Thanks so much to everyone who was involved in the show and the presentation.

I don't know if this makes a difference for this kind of video feed, but I was finally able to setup my MicroA1 Radeon 7000 tool type for INTERRUPT=Yes just in time to watch the show.

So far no black screen on boot ... fingers crossed. (Using 1024x768 RGB16 screen mode).

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@number6

Thanks for the encouragement in general.

On Sunday after some mis-steps I used mplayer reliably. The only peculiar thing was that the colors Blue and Red were interchanged. Audio was reliable.

I would sure be willing to donate money to a better microphone and some way or other for interviewers to monitor levels. I really wanted to listen to the Freiden interview but it was nearly drowned in conference room.

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So it's official, A-Eon is just a hobby.

Nothing inspires a person to spend over $2,000 on a piece of tech quite like a company aiming low.


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@number6
Thanks for the great service you provided.

-
Now I would just like to see which questions Ben was asked and hear the answers. Any links to video coverage or transcriptions?

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In others, not any news about os4 :( All of this we know already that gallium3d will coming, that smp support are planned, that new shell in developing (for the last 3 years)

Everything going pretty slow must to say, and sad that all of this by hyperion/aeon taked as hobby only, without thinking about real marketing and new blood attracting :(

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@kas1e

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But developers code will be unmodern, because none of real usabe and modern apps will works on 300mhz cpus and slow classic speed of memory blocks transfers. Dunno why they still loose their time on it.


Mmh.. I sadly agree with this and share your opinion
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but on the other hand, i remember there where people complaining exactly about not having 4.1 on classics, now they are happy but others complain...

Is it really so difficult to build a square sfere?!?

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Mmh.. I sadly agree with this and share your opinion
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but on the other hand, i remember there where people complaining exactly about not having 4.1 on classics, now they are happy but others complain...

Is it really so difficult to build a square sfere?!?


Its just matter of thinking about OS. Someone like retro-shemtro-hobby, someone want something new-interesting-modern.

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About X-Mos: that the on board Xmos (XENA) will be there to tinker (and learn) and hobby fun, we all knew, the interesting bit would be the Xorro slot, its position and the eventual possibility (which I was waiting confirmation on) of it's communication with the CPU at PCI-E speeds.

That would bring very interesting scenarios, but it would seem that people is on a fix for the on board playful thingy.

So I ask, did anybody inquire about Xorro? (the nitty gritty)?

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8. this is the cool bit: say goodbye to miniGL -- OS4 is transitioning to gallium3D in the future

Not to hard to copy the AROS source I imagine...
The fruits of AROS benefit all!

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@Lou

I think AROS source can help there just for learning purposes, just because aros drivers are different, and not like AOS drivers (.hidd stuff and such, while on aos4 p96). Also AROS gallium use NVIDIA over that noveau (as i know no radeons support on aros, only nvidia/geforse/etc ? ). Also version of AROS gallium are little endian, while ppc one will be big endian.

All of this mean, that copy+paste cant be done at all. But what is good, it that AROS already show - that gallium3d + mesa can be used on amiga-kind OS.

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@thread

As I understand it, everything was filmed independently.
Also, reporters were at the show, so I fully expect reports arriving in many forms. This will take some time due to both the fact that most people travelled to the show and the exhaustion that follows.

Although I think you can gain more insight through watching a/v where you can relate to the people and their reactions, there is some written info available, should you wish to seek it out.

A big round of applause should go to Robert Bernardo for both doing some filming and doing real time irc reporting on almost a line-by-line basis.

As advertised and fairly well attended - the unofficial Amiwest irc channel:
Server: us.synIRC.net
Channel: #amiga.org

You can probably obtain channel logs there from those that saved them, if you can't wait for the a/v material to get processed.

If someone wanted to edit those logs down to -just- Robert's comments and make that available, I suggest you contact Robert and perhaps amiga.org for approval to do so. In Robert's case, it's just the considerate thing to do to ask 1st. In amiga.org's case there may be a policy issue related to releasing portions of irc logs. Dunno.

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