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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 21:00:53
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@Hammer you said that PS2 emulation and Wii-emulators are supporting dualcores. Edit: spoiler. But even without this supoort it works. First Dolphin has dualcore support optionally - you can say "experimental" - so nothing to mention. It work without better. PS2 Emulation is more demanding because of the architecture... but also here i see no problem.
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I just rerun PCS2X(0.9.7.3113 SVN, May 29 2010) emulator and 'Tales of the Abyss' game on single core mode (e.g. set CPU affinity) Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 (2.53Ghz) + Mobile Radeon HD 4650; this emulation configuration can’t obtain full frame rates.
My Intel Core i7-740QM @2.93Ghz Turbo Boost Mode (Solo Mode) wasn't able to obtain full frame rates.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 21:10:17
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COMODO is a well-known security firm.
Some people have suggested they make a OS.
Could be that C= USA cited this in error, referred to something different, or knows something we don't. ;)
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 21:16:48
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| @Hammer Yep Tales of Abyss is a problem but others run and i think we have to wait a bit since developing is ongoing. There are also Gamecube-games which run slow or are just unplayable while others can be run in 1080p perfectly.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 21:32:50
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I google'd PCS2X forums and found this results 1. AMD X2 7750 BE @ 3Ghz + Radeon HD 4850 resulted in God of War obtaing around 45FPS.
2. Intel Core 2 Duo @4.0Ghz(Solo Mode) + Geforce 8800GT almost plays Final Fantasy X at full speed without any speed hacks. Note the clock speed i.e. Core 2 Solo Mode @4.0Ghz overclock.
There's a review on Opteron 165 single or dual core mode, overclocking and PCSX (0.9.5.2) refer to http://www.ngemu.com/articles.php?action=view&rid=31
---------- I have tried "Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2" on P8700 Core Solo mode and it has similar results.
PS; 'Tales of the Abyss' obatins full frame rates in dual core mode btw. Last edited by Hammer on 30-Oct-2010 at 09:40 PM. Last edited by Hammer on 30-Oct-2010 at 09:39 PM. Last edited by Hammer on 30-Oct-2010 at 09:36 PM.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 21:50:30
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phoenixkonsole wrote: @kolla Please check my last post so i know if we talk about the same "multicast".
Aros fit my needs for a embedded system.
USB-initialization= check Sound IO initialization = check Lan = check Wifi = check Graficsystem = check IO = check and so on ... what do i need more during 5 secs? Oh i forgot Ghostscript = check.....
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For embedded - watchdog support. - APM/APCI - SMBus - SNMP - I2C drivers
For further use (embedded and others) - IPV6 - IP multicast - P2POE - printer - user management / or at least something to prevent amok running user programs overwriting system files.
For Speed (small servers PCs) - file system with write cache - file system with striping mirroring (aka software RAID) - full USB2.0 (synchronous) - (AS)MP support - resource tracking with a bit of memory protection via MMU, crash manager (like Guru, Grimm Reaper, Blue Screen)
Just a small summary of things AROS should have, _________________ AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 21:57:11
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| @Hammer wow this is getting OT : D For some games you get speedhacks like FF. So even on a 1.6GHZ Dual you get it playable and still looking "ok"- "not ugly but not sexy".
If you wan't a list of playable games to check out i can give you this. Adventure Island (NTSC -Remake) Aoi Shiro Chobits :Chi Dake no Hito Contra Arcade(NTSC - Remake) Dragonball Z Infinite World Elminage Yami No Fujo To Kamigami No Yubiwa Fate Stay Night Realta Nua Ikki Tousen Shining Dragon Inu Yasha:The Cursed Mask(Manga/Anime) Jigoku Shoujo Mioyosuga(Anime) Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn Dream Hyper Battle Kyuuketsu Kitan Moonties Kyuuketsu Kitan Moonties Melty Blood Actress Again Metal Slug 3D (NTSC) Moe Moe 2 Ji Daisenryaku 2 Puyo Puyo Forever School Rumble Ni-Gakki Sekirei Mirai Kara no Okurimono Shining Wind Shinobi Shinobido Way of the Ninja Sonic Riders Zero Gravity(run pretty fast ,should be in the list) Soul Eater Taiko No Tatsujin Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Smash Up The King of Fighters Collection The Orochi Saga Tir Na Nog Trigger Heart Exelica Enhanced Ueki no Housoku (The Law of Ueki-Base on Manga/Anime) XxxHolic - Watanuki no Izayoi Souwa(Manga/Anime) Youki Hime Den Limited Edition Yu Yu Hakusho Forever
This games run on every CPU actually sold as "new" very fine. ArTonelico games Atelier series Disgaea Disgaea 2 Mana Khemia RAIDEN III Capcom Fighting Jam Capcom vs SNK 2 Grandia 2 Grim Grimoire Kingdom Hearts Makai Kingdom Marvel vs Capcom 2 Metal Slug Anthology Phantom Brave Resident Evil: Code Veronica X
Yeah always be legal! Buy or borrow and use only a BIOS you obtain under terms of "fair use".
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:02:14
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| @Arko ; ) Ha i could now say which comes and which not but i have to be silent. Ok if i count correctly you can throw ___SPOILER___ out of your list. Ah _SPOILER____. Still a long journey but we are galloping against the sunrise. ___SPOILER_____
i talk to much : D Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 30-Oct-2010 at 10:08 PM.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:16:00
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As for OT, you started PS2 emulation sub-thread.
Your game list is not quite PS2’s technical show case games e.g. God of War or Gran Turismo.
Yes, even Core 2 Duo @ 1.6Ghz in dual core mode helps. The issue is AROS(or AOS for that matter) doesn't support SMP.
Realistically, AROS "MacOS X" style kernel update would be required and legacy AOS applications throw into a sandbox.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:16:34
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| spoiler being printer, ofcourse _________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:25:13
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| @kolla jep but every spoiler was a number...
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:32:10
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| @Hammer : D wow now please just say to me:
2x 1.6GHZ is equal to 3.2Ghz single core. No it is not. First you have overhead between both core, than you have still overhead by Windows itself. So in other words a Pentium IV@3.4GHZ can run FF even more acceptable. Ok if we start about CPU you should have a look on the cache to, 512K against 3MB makes a big difference. Bla bla blup OK to make compromise: PS2 emulation yes - but not perfect(yet). But you can still play around 50 funny games without problem.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:33:38
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As you may already know, APCI is already in the P2P.org's bounty.
Atm, I'm looking at SATA bounty. _________________ Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 64 GB RAM, GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Amiga 1200 (Rev 1D1, KS 3.2, PiStorm32lite/RPi 4B 4GB/Emu68) Amiga 500 (Rev 6A, KS 3.2, PiStorm/RPi 3a/Emu68) |
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:34:32
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| @Hammer Try the AresOne. Sata works like a charm ; ) I think on iMica too. Yeahh..... next discussion... : D Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 30-Oct-2010 at 10:35 PM.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:38:40
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phoenixkonsole wrote: @Hammer : D wow now please just say to me:
2x 1.6GHZ is equal to 3.2Ghz single core. No it is not.
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"Core 2 Duo" includes it's built-in tech e.g. cache structures included.
I didn't state i386 or IA32.Last edited by Hammer on 30-Oct-2010 at 10:43 PM.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:40:37
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phoenixkonsole wrote: @Hammer Try the AresOne. Sata works like a charm ; ) I think on iMica too. Yeahh..... next discussion... : D
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You can set SATA in compatibility mode, but that breaks most of pre-installed Windows setups (year 2008 and highter mainstream OEM PCs).Last edited by Hammer on 30-Oct-2010 at 10:44 PM. Last edited by Hammer on 30-Oct-2010 at 10:41 PM.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:44:13
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| @Hammer i am rotating now in my seat and singing "lalalalalalalalala" Let's take a break : ) - we both will laugh arm in arm about this discussion as soon it is done.
What i would like a feature requests ; ) I got now some more in this thread. Thanks
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:45:18
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| @Hammer hu? SATA in compatibility mode??? Nope! This is not needed here. _________________ AROS Broadway - AEROS - Aminux - AmiCloud - indieGO! Appstore - AmiWallet - VAN lossless video codec - AMC Amiga media Center -KrypUnite - LibertyNet - MinX - amigaNX |
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:47:14
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AROS would benefit from: - Integrated simple to use and SAMBA/CIFS client. - Shutdown procedure - Unicode support for filenames, editors etc. (not only for WWW browsers) - help system ( you can't beat Apple but Maxon's HotHelp would have been a good start) _________________ AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:50:10
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| @phoenixkonsole My SATA stands on AHCI in my BIOS... no need to use IDE option bla bla It is an AresOne made for AROS ; ) not a cheapo meapo something like Dell or HP : D
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Re: to BigBentheAussie Posted on 30-Oct-2010 22:52:57
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Hammer wrote:
As you may already know, APCI is already in the P2P.org's bounty. |
I know I have donated to this bounty unfortunately programming has not started yet._________________ AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.
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