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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 19-Jan-2011 7:45:10
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@realize

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Still no word from Joerg?

We not expect from joerg any words , because we nothing asking from him. But as i know, he already shared with someone his reaction-based sources (which, will help only for reaction based owb of course and have nothing to do with mui version).

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Looks awesome good job, I can hardly wait to beta test!

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@kas1e

"yeah.jpg" rules!

Na, second best after "yeswecan.jpg"... Great work, thanks to all involved.

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@kas1e

Quote:
Its silver-theme (coming with aos4.1u2 only if i remember right)


It comes in Update 1

@Realize

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Still no word from Joerg? What a jerk...


What a shame, no flames allowed.
Keep Joerg in peace (and out from this thread) and say thanks for what he did instead ...

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Some more progress info about mui-owb porting:

We (we mean Deniil and Fab) replace one of the harder mui4 deps in owb : List class usage. In mui4 such stuff as Display/Construct and Destrcut can be used through methods, while in mui3.x it can used through a hooks. So, we write wrapper which overwrite all the stuff with usage of hooks , with using an ListView. That take about 5-7 days imho, because for first i trying to do something myself, then Deniil get the flag , and yesterday they with fab found where bug was , so now we have one of the biggest part of mui4 replacing done.

And there is screenhot of work in progress.

About 5 windowses are works now, but still, some return errors (2) , some just return null (2 as well) and the main window which are refers heavy with prefs/mimetypes/context windowses are not works too.

So, the next our goal will be to make main initial window works fine (what mean also prefs/mimetypes/context windowses as well). After that will be done, we can start to think about "something soon".

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@kas1e

to see this progressing so well is tremendous news. many, many thanks to you, and of course, the irrepressible talent that is fab.



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@kas1e

Looks promising!

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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@thread

Just making things clear. I got a word from Mr. Strohmayer in December but I didn't feel a need to say anything here (or was AW.net down when I was thinking it). I got also a #?.diff file from him. All the rest I downloaded from Sand-Labs' SVN. I haven't been able to compile OWB yet and I haven't put much efforts into it.

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Posted on 25-Jan-2011 17:44:40
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@kas1e

That's really cool.

Do you have paypal account?

I think you and Fab need some rewords for your work.

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@kas1e

Many thanks boyz, it's awesome when various members of community are so friendly and join the efforts working togheter, this is the result

Kudos to all of you !

@Tomppeli

Well that's good, almost we have the unreleased diffs, i hope you can receive the help you need, Reaction version needs improvement but isn't that bad at all, aniway how about uploading all your staff on OS4Depot ?

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@kas1e

Is OS4 OWB ReAction based?!? I thought Joerg made it quite clear it didn't use
ReAction. That's one of the reasons it never got any "fancy" stuff added to it.
I think it uses only gadtools (which uses ReAction nowadays ).

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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@Samwel

That OWB from Joerg are ReAction based, and that on which we works - MUI4 based. I.e. 2 different browsers. Reaction based was in develop in last time by Joerg, and it was aos4 only of course , but that one, on which we works - are that OWB from Fab, which are different, with tons of features and done through mui4. And while mui4 are not present on aos4, we trying to replace all mui4 stuff on mui3.9 and so on.

Tompeli for now say about diffs which he got from Joerg, so its diffs for Reaction based OWB , but we works on different browsers, which done for morphos initially, but because its have tons of features, we trying to port it on aos4 for now.

@Samo79

In general these diffs will not helps if they will be on os4depot (because its only diffs, not source code, and while source code of OWB core itself already changed since times when Joerg works on it , some diffs for sure will just not works). And that mean that Tompleli need to create CMakefiles himself, and so on. Pretty hard job for sure.

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Better if it will just works on os4 after all , no money need it :)

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@kas1e

Well i mean, he can merge the latest diffs that right now is availible only on his hard disk (and on the Joerg's HD) with the AmigaOS4 code already stored in Sand-Labs SVN and then release

In alternative he can upload the latest diffs received directly on Sand-Labs SVN, the easy way at this point.

What should be important is to make all the source availible in a pubblic repository, SVN, Aminet or OS4Depot isn't quite important

@Samwel

And don't forget Denill, he help a lot so a big thanks (and not only that) goes also to him !

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Posted on 25-Jan-2011 18:50:15
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Well i mean, he can merge the latest diffs that right now is availible only on his hard disk (and on the Joerg's HD) with the AmigaOS4 code already stored in Sand-Labs SVN and then release


As i understand, he can't to do it "easy". I.e. that "merging" its all that hard work which need to do for him. Because for example he have some diff for some file from svn-source, then, that file from svn-source was changed. So, automatically you can't merge diff here, and need to check all manually.

Also as i understand he will need to change CMakeFiles manually, which also , no so easy, becsaue need to know what put and where and how.

But of course, when diffs will be added to latest svn, then will cool to pack just all the sources, and put somethere. So all the other later can add stuff from SVN manually, on the already working os4 sources.

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Very nice development. Gratz and good luck :)

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@all

Some more stuff in "more or less work". For now its preferences window:

screen1
screen2
screen3
screen4

A bit broken format, but anyway interesting to see imho.

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Great work =]

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@kas1e

Maybe you misunderstood me.. I know you're working on porting Fab's MUI4 version
for OS4. I also know about the differences between them.

I just commented on your claim that Joerg's OWB is ReAction based (Post #261).
Which to the best of my knowledge is gadtools based (in source). But we all know
gadtools uses ReAction to make its GUI. But still, gadtools is way more limiting than
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@Samwel

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I just commented on your claim that Joerg's OWB is ReAction based (Post #261).
Which to the best of my knowledge is gadtools based (in source). But we all know
gadtools uses ReAction to make its GUI. But still, gadtools is way more limiting than
ReAction.


Hm.. I first time heart that Reaction based on gadtools. Pretty possible that gadtools now use reaction, but not sure if reaction are based on gadtools. And as i know, joerg's owb it exactly reaction based , not gadtools based (but well, i can't be sure, need ask Tompeli because he have a code for now of this version)

Anyway, as i see from the all amigaos4 native apps, reaction is not that bad as everyone say about. Its just looks like matter of taste: mui or reaction. But for sure for mui there is more classes, and mui (expectually mui4) are more advanced in compare with current reaction.

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@kas1e

Thanks for the hard work you, Fab and Deniil have put into this. Thanks for taking the time to make screenshots too... It gives a real sense of progress.

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