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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 1:05:25
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@itix

Which typically could be some method call from a null c++ object, for instance. But only LR and stackframe would give a real hint at what's going on, of course. The log isn't particularly helpful in this regard.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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@Itix & Fab

Sadly that crash 100% random. I can't found any situation, in which this crash will happens all the time.

And crash all the time without any stacktrace (i even lucky enough to catch even that what i have now, via serial cable). I will try today to cause 3-4 crashes of this kind, and will try to compare if addresses always the same or not, if crashes always looks the same or not and so on.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 9:46:13
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Are you using memguard?

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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Yes, always in background.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 10:16:26
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@kas1e

Addresses are useless. What you need is a segment name and offset and that is why SegTracker functionality would be useful.

Regardless of random nature of this crash your crashlog didnt have random crash at all. Jumping to 0xDEADF00D could only happen with uninitialized jump tables and such. Or, alternatively, using dead pointer. It is possible that memory region is reallocated by OWB or other application and initialized to contain 0xDEADF00D pattern.

When debugging try to look for other magic words, too.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 10:19:32
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I was skiing yesterday evening so no coding.
But about this stupid close gadget again: It can be changed by the user now by replacing a file. I will replace the red X with the disabled version of the image which is a grey X

About a ReAction version. Hahaha! is the only thing I can say. You can't port MUI-OWB to ReAction. That would be the same as taking the raw webkit and write a new RA GUI from scratch, like Joerg did. We obviously won't do that. Just backporting from MUI4 to MUI3 proved to be 2 month more difficult that I could ever imaging. MUI4 has features that will cause MUI3 to crash or become terribly unstable in the most incomprehensible ways.

This crash seems like a difficult one. I think it is either related to some MUI4->3 part we missed or the text codepage translation stuff which I believe is different in our port.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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I had warned kas1e that it wouldn't be a trivial port. :)
I have no idea where the crash could come from, but if you have doubts on the codesets.library equivalent for charset stuff, you can just disable it and see what happens.

By the way, the initial version of OWB for MorphOS took me about 3 weeks to code (and it already had many features such as download manager and so on).



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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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@kas1e

If OWB uses multiple tasks/threads you could try this: call Forbid() early on in each of of them (also main task). Do not call Permit(). This should basically turn the tasks into cooperative-task-switching
mode. They should still work normally, because Wait() breaks Forbid state, so it should not cause the system to hang in Forbid state (would only happen with task which busy loops all the time without ever triggering a Wait()).

If with this, the app becomes more stable, it's a hint about what could be wrong.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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Regardless of random nature of this crash your crashlog didnt have random crash at all.


I mean its random visually. I.e. i start to browse the net, come to one site, then to another, then type on message, another one, swith there to there, and then after a while - that "random visually but not random in general" crash. For now i write this message from the mui-owb, and pretty possible that when i will choice preview, or for example post comment, it will crash. Or maybe not, and i will continue , to another sites, and babah, on some site where all was fine before, i have the crash.

Or even when i just will only go to new site, without typing anything. I mean catch visually some place where crash happens everytime looks like unpossible.

ps. was lucky enough, and no crash while write that answer

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 11:18:17
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@kas1e

It could also be a flaky curl port.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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@Fab

But i change nothing in curl when port it , its have as i understand only one problem now : broken "file uri", but all the other stuff should be ok imho by default ? (still not crash, one more message from mui-owb).

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 11:27:05
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@all

So, after i type 2 messages here, visit about 10 sites, i just come to one more site as usuall (which i visit few mins ago), and then after loading of some part of site, its crashes the same way.

There is that second crash log

The nature of crash the same as before: all works works, then at some point small stop on a second, then all continue to works for 2 seconds more, and then window totally lockup. On this stage OWB crashes, GR/digiclock and workbnench itself crashes.

Then after i try to press buttons/mouses on WB , then input.device are crashes as well.

Should to add that i do really nothing, only what i do : type addresses in the url string, and do some replyes on AW.net, then when i type address , it start to loads, and crashes.

@itix
LR always the same btw : LR: 7FFF690C , as with first crash and same with second one.

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 11:33:12
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Did you try to just type an address and then leave OWB as is for a certain period of time ?

For example goto "www.google.com" and then don't touch anythings for a while (wait 5 or so minutes for example)

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 11:34:11
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I yesterday leave mui-owb on some site (auto-refreshed one), for i think whole night, and no crashes was if i remember right.

Now, i am on google.com for about 5 minuts already, and waiting (no crash).

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
Posted on 25-Feb-2011 11:55:35
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about 20 minuts on google.com without touch of owb - no crash. Cursor blinking in search field of google.com, and all works, no crash.

edit1: 30 minuts no crash as well

edit2: 40, and no crash. So its something which happens when you still do something. Browsing or such..

I remember you say that you have some site which autorefreshes every minut or so ? Some .it site ? Can you please give a link, i will try the same with it.

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Posted on 25-Feb-2011 12:12:15
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@kas1e
Livescore.com autorefreshes.

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After i leave google.com for 40 minuts , then i type in google "blalba", do search. Then go to arosworld.org - same crash.

If i reboot, and go to arosworld.org - no crash.

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Posted on 25-Feb-2011 12:17:40
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Livescore.com autorefreshes.


5 minuts on it already after reboot

But did it refreshes all the time ? Or only few times in a hour ?

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@kas1e

AFAIK every minute or so, at least if there's a match going on. Bottom of the page some leagues are playing now, look for Azerbadjan and Iran

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 OWB Development whilst we wait?
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Swithing back to aos, and owb ask me to save "swf" .. Maybe you know any other auto-refreshes site without flash ?

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