Click Here
home features news forums classifieds faqs links search
6071 members 
Amiga Q&A /  Free for All /  Emulation /  Gaming / (Latest Posts)
Login

Nickname

Password

Lost Password?

Don't have an account yet?
Register now!

Support Amigaworld.net
Your support is needed and is appreciated as Amigaworld.net is primarily dependent upon the support of its users.
Donate

Menu
Main sections
» Home
» Features
» News
» Forums
» Classifieds
» Links
» Downloads
Extras
» OS4 Zone
» IRC Network
» AmigaWorld Radio
» Newsfeed
» Top Members
» Amiga Dealers
Information
» About Us
» FAQs
» Advertise
» Polls
» Terms of Service
» Search

IRC Channel
Server: irc.amigaworld.net
Ports: 1024,5555, 6665-6669
SSL port: 6697
Channel: #Amigaworld
Channel Policy and Guidelines

Who's Online
24 crawler(s) on-line.
 159 guest(s) on-line.
 1 member(s) on-line.


 agami

You are an anonymous user.
Register Now!
 agami:  2 mins ago
 matthey:  41 mins ago
 RobertB:  58 mins ago
 Rob:  1 hr 22 mins ago
 number6:  2 hrs 28 mins ago
 Karlos:  3 hrs 3 mins ago
 kolla:  3 hrs 32 mins ago
 OneTimer1:  4 hrs ago
 OlafS25:  4 hrs 34 mins ago
 pixie:  4 hrs 46 mins ago

/  Forum Index
   /  Amiga OS4 Hardware
      /  [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Register To Post

Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 Next Page )
Poll : Is X1000 Vaporware by Wikipedias definition?
Yes
No
 
PosterThread
amigang 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 18:58:18
#61 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 12-Jan-2005
Posts: 2024
From: Cheshire, England

I voted No. because I actually got to use it for a minute at the amiga show, and for Hyperion and A-eon to go though all the effort of producing a test board and porting Os4 to it just to scam a 100 people seem a bit far fetch, like other have said I hope its just a delay by Varisys. plus this is a big operation for most likly a small group of people. be patient

_________________
AmigaNG, YouTube, LeaveReality Studio

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Arko 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 20:26:38
#62 ]
Super Member
Joined: 17-Jan-2007
Posts: 1989
From: Unknown

@NutsAboutAmiga

Quote:

NutsAboutAmiga wrote:
I know not every one has received one yet.


You know, writing this violates the NDA ... SNCR

_________________
AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.

I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
g_kraszewski 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 22:19:00
#63 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 3-Sep-2010
Posts: 343
From: Unknown

@Boot_WB

Hardware ready to ship, all chip/board documentation available and supplied (pre-, during- and post- design/production), and a delay between hardware/software readiness of months? That's very hard to understand in ANY market. I know it's a weird monopoly situation here, but... MONTHS??!

It is nothing. Apple had to wait five years for MorphOS port .

_________________
RastPort

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Rob 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 22:21:51
#64 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 20-Mar-2003
Posts: 6351
From: S.Wales

@Arko

Quote:
You know, writing this violates the NDA ... SNCR


Has NutsAboutAmiga signed the NDA?

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
umisef 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:11:22
#65 ]
Super Member
Joined: 19-Jun-2005
Posts: 1714
From: Melbourne, Australia

@NutsAboutAmiga

Quote:
don't know what they are sending out, I only know some people have stuff.


For a rather loose definition of "have"...

By that definition, I "had" a NeXT Cube back in 1990.

And in 2001, there were dozens of AmiWest visitors who "had" Amithlon --- at a time when, I can assure you, there was still a very real chance of Amithlon never seeing a public release.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:13:23
#66 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 9-Jun-2004
Posts: 12818
From: Norway

@Rob

No not a beta tester.

_________________
http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/
Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:21:01
#67 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 9-Jun-2004
Posts: 12818
From: Norway

@umisef

Well they have not set a time stamp on it yet.

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 23-Jan-2011 at 11:25 PM.

_________________
http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/
Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Rob 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:31:59
#68 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 20-Mar-2003
Posts: 6351
From: S.Wales

@umisef

In hindsight it a real shame that Amithlon wasn't used as a bridge to the next generation Amiga.

I think that Amithlon came at a time when Amiga products might still have sold in sufficient numbers. Unfortunately too many different parties were pulling in too many different directions already and Amiga Inc lacked real direction and were too weak to dictate the future.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Yssing 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 8:50:18
#69 ]
Super Member
Joined: 24-Apr-2003
Posts: 1084
From: Unknown

voted NO and might I just add, its a dumb question!

_________________

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
OldFart 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 9:53:25
#70 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2004
Posts: 3060
From: Stad; en d'r is moar ain stad en da's Stad. Makkelk zat!

@Yssing

Quote:
voted NO and might I just add, its a dumb question!

Yet you voted anyway! I agree it's a dumb question and hence, did not bother to vote.

In order to keep this forum clean and tidy I would advise to not respond to this kind of threads/polls. They are useless and only serve the sole purpose of setting up some stupid flamewar.

My stance on this kind of treads.

OldFart

_________________
More then three levels of indigestion and you're scroomed!

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
wawa 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 11:43:02
#71 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 21-Jan-2008
Posts: 6259
From: Unknown

@OldFart

mmm.. pretty much clear that amiga heretic has an agenda. but ive just read a few comments from before a year and wonder whom this past year has actually proven right? lets be honest to ourselves.

Last edited by wawa on 24-Jan-2011 at 11:43 AM.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Deniil715 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 12:47:00
#72 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 14-May-2003
Posts: 4236
From: Sweden

@Nicsoft

OOH! Like your avatar!
A SAAB and an Amiga is all you need to feel good

And I voted No because I know the X1000 will come.

_________________
- Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes)
> Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
OldFart 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 14:47:22
#73 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2004
Posts: 3060
From: Stad; en d'r is moar ain stad en da's Stad. Makkelk zat!

@Deniil715

Quote:
A SAAB and an Amiga is all you need to feel good

I'm sorry to disappoint you: I've got a Volvo and an Amiga. With respect to cars and motorcycles alike I have a deep love for rear wheel drive. Until now the only ones from a list of 15+ that listened to the steeringwheel by pushing the accelerator. The odd frontwheel driven ones I had or used made me sometimes very nervous...

OldFart

_________________
More then three levels of indigestion and you're scroomed!

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
OldFart 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 14:52:27
#74 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2004
Posts: 3060
From: Stad; en d'r is moar ain stad en da's Stad. Makkelk zat!

@wawa

Quote:
lets be honest to ourselves.

Which is always a good thing, but also keep in mind that, although Trevor Dickinson acts in a very professional manner, currently the Amiga is in a rather hobbyistic state. I do by no means mean it in a negative way, but alas, the Amiga market is not *that* big and that brings limitations towards people like Trevor and the guys behind ACube alike.

In general cut them some slack, quite some slack preferably!

OldFart

_________________
More then three levels of indigestion and you're scroomed!

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
wawa 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 15:46:14
#75 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 21-Jan-2008
Posts: 6259
From: Unknown

@OldFart

this exactly is the problem as it has been pointed out numerous times. i could actually apply the very same criteria to real hobby projects such fpga arcade or natami, which release has benn pushed back in exactly the same manner like x1k. the main thing is that there is no gatering funds, secrecy, and so on. and despite they are all hobby projects aeon is the only one of them that tries to act like serious commercial entity. all this exactly kills the current it could gather otherwise. but it is already too late i fear.

Last edited by wawa on 24-Jan-2011 at 03:48 PM.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
OldFart 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 16:15:51
#76 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2004
Posts: 3060
From: Stad; en d'r is moar ain stad en da's Stad. Makkelk zat!

@wawa

Any business entity has to act professionally in order to gain some credibillity. Both ACube and Trevor do so. ACube now enjoys the fruits of their endeavour: within the confines of the Amiga market (*) they are recognised as being reliable to their word given. But even they had to fight for it in the first days!
Now Trevor steps forward and puts all his weight and power behind a very far-reaching project: the X1000 and he is met with the same critisism as all the others had EyeTech included. They reached out and risked their necks. EyeTech fell out, but hey! to some degree we still enjoy the fruits of his endeavours.
Thanks to these kind of people we now have something to play with. Without EyeTech how would we fare today? Would there still be an Amiga market somehow? They got bust and there is no reason to explain here why. Hyperion reached out and gave us something to make those board enjoyable.
And here we act as a bunch of whining loonies: instead of rejoicing about the availabillity and continued developement of the OS, we throw negativism their way. It's a miracle all them people are still bothered to provide us with toys.

My stance on this: as they have put their shoulders under it, we should do so likewise! Be a man with guts, even if it's the first and only time in your life. But for the sake of all the goats in the pen stop whining!

OldFart

EDIT: (*) The Amiga market is reportedly not ACube's only market.

Last edited by OldFart on 24-Jan-2011 at 04:16 PM.

_________________
More then three levels of indigestion and you're scroomed!

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
wawa 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 16:45:16
#77 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 21-Jan-2008
Posts: 6259
From: Unknown

@OldFart

.. on the contrary, i think amiga community is very forgiving. look at the dedicated public, and im not talking of os4 or aeon alone, most of the people addicted to any sort of project here, be it again natami, fpga arcade, aros, mos of whatever stay loyal to their choice no matter what. more than that: people are ready to offer even financial support *in advance* to such projects, as it was proposed to natami team (not accepted), as it is in fact a subject of numerous bounties like firefox, aros68k and so on. the community is actually very positive in general, much more positive as it seems sane.

what concerns eyetech comparison i know very little about it nor do i care. i wasnt there at that time, thank god, otherwise i wouldnt be here today. im not sure if amithlon would be a better solution at the time. i suppose so, but its difficult to prove today.

and please, dont tell me im whinning. i have na opinion that i am allowed to voice just as anybody else does. ok?

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
OldFart 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 20:40:26
#78 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2004
Posts: 3060
From: Stad; en d'r is moar ain stad en da's Stad. Makkelk zat!

@wawa

Quote:
and please, dont tell me im whinning.

This remark was not addressed to you, my apologies if it looked like that. They were addressed to people who started this thread and so.

OldFart

_________________
More then three levels of indigestion and you're scroomed!

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
klx300r 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 20:58:28
#79 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Mar-2008
Posts: 3837
From: Toronto, Canada

@AmigaHeretic

A-Eon is not making a Linux skin and slapping a X1000 sticker on it !

the X1000 is a brand new product that has to be engineered and tested thoroughly and that takes time

_________________
____________________________
c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII
! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 !
mancave-ramblings
X1000 I BELIEVE

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
wawa 
Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2
Posted on 24-Jan-2011 21:18:27
#80 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 21-Jan-2008
Posts: 6259
From: Unknown

@OldFart

beg your pardon;)

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 Next Page )

[ home ][ about us ][ privacy ] [ forums ][ classifieds ] [ links ][ news archive ] [ link to us ][ user account ]
Copyright (C) 2000 - 2019 Amigaworld.net.
Amigaworld.net was originally founded by David Doyle