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mr2 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 17:11:23
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@Tuxedo

Yes, Altivec ver.


@pavlor

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pavlor wrote:
@mr2

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OK, here you go, first day - first test, Lame.


Nearly 2 times faster than 1.5 GHz 7447A? Better than I expected!


What a shame its not my X1000

@all

New test....

Copy (shell) wav file (46,4MB):

hdd to hdd:
MacMini1.5 - 5.77s
X1000 - 1.39s

hdd to ram:
MacMini1.5 - 1.77s
X1000 - 0.44s



http://forum.amigaone.pl/topic65.html

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 18:03:53
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@JurassicC

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If any X1000 owners wish to discuss it feel free to pop over to the official support forum.


Would love too - still waiting to be allowed in...

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 18:25:09
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@Amiga_3k

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So, how's the machine in everyday Amiga-use doing?


What would make this easier is some mass way to convert all of my Amiga floppies into ADF files and burn them to DVD.

This would then let me do what I wanted to do the most - start using all the software I know. This would give me a starting point - but at the moment it feels like I'm a bit out at sea and feeling around in the dark.

It's a bit of a bumpy road for someone that has been out of the Amiga world for so long. As soon as I have some time I will sit down and have a proper session.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 18:27:55
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@-Sam-

Are you going to produce a video showing it in use, very interested in seeing it run every day programs such as Pagestream, Art Effect, Photogenics and the like!

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@mr2

over at aorg piru claims that the tests you are comparing to on the mac/mos side are once without altivec support. since you ensured that os4 version you tested on x1k are altivec enabled the result is invalid.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60604

in valid comparison x1k shows on pair with macs around 1.5 ghz

edit: uh, i see you know already, since krashan has confirmed the same on your own thread here:
http://forum.amigaone.pl/topic65.html

for general public the results are so far:
Mac mini 1,42 GHz -> 18s (MorphOS 2.7)
PowerBook 1,67 GHz -> 16s(MorphOS 3.0)
A1 X1k 1,8 Ghz -> 18s
Sam 460ex 1,15 Ghz -> 53s

edit:
another result (from morphzone):
My 7448 took 14s and my overclocked mac mini @ 1.83GHz took 15s

äh, damn, the graph from piru:
http://sintonen.fi/pics/lame_benchmark.png

(still the results are not that dramatically different i think, x1k doesnt outperform g4 but is close behind. for a unique construction it is still quite good)

Last edited by wawa on 02-Feb-2012 at 07:19 PM.
Last edited by wawa on 02-Feb-2012 at 07:16 PM.
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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 18:44:50
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@wawa

Yeah, I see now...
Any notes about second test?

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 18:44:51
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@-Sam-

Good point about the ADFs... I guess you already did consider searching the web for ADFs of the commercial floppies you own?

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pavlor 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@mr2

Is there any non-altivec version of lame? It would be interesting to see difference (and also comparison of plain CPU power).

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 18:57:57
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@pavlor

will ask the owner...he will make more tests, one each day.

Last edited by mr2 on 02-Feb-2012 at 07:09 PM.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@mr2

not that ive seen. do you stil have that wav file? maybe it would be good to post it somewhere not that there are doubts if the same file has been used, unintentionally, since the file itself is a result of a previous test and could differ. i for my part could see how lame performs on my i7 system.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@Seiya

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and what programs you used to say that?


See Blender Test Results

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:04:18
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@pavlor

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Is there any non-altivec version of lame? It would be interesting to see difference (and also comparison of plain CPU power).

apparently, since the tests originate from a polish page "efika against the rest of the world". efika didnt have altivec, did it? if you trust this page altivec speeds up about a factor 1,7-1,8.

http://www.apc74.ppa.pl/PPA/Efika_vs_reszta_swiata.html#table8

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:15:57
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@broadblues

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For example on my SAM-Flex 733MHz5.

5.AmigaOS4:> av:blender/bldyn -b av:blender/projects/bricks_and_water_plugin.blend -o ram:pool -F JPEG -f 0

Saved: ram:pool0001.jpg Time: 01:05.80


X1000 @ 1.8GHz

Saved: ram:pool0001.jpg Time: 00:10.89

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:16:00
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@sicky

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Are you going to produce a video showing it in use, very interested in seeing it run every day programs such as Pagestream, Art Effect, Photogenics


Are there any demos available? I don't have Pagestream or ArtEffect - I may have Photogencis somewhere but I will have to search. Most of my Amigs stuff is in storage.

I just pulled out a few bits and pieces to see if I could get anything running. From previous posts I thought I would be able to put in a CD32 CD and play it - not so. There doesn't seem to be UAE or RunUAE built in as I was expecting. I have downloaded UAE but it doesn't run CD32 discs.

Tried Turrican II - worked for about 10 seconds then crashed the whole machine.

Still - when I have more time I will have another go.

You have had OS4.1 for a while - what do you use as a mod player? Also - how stable is UAE on your 460?

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mr2 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:21:37
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@wawa

I'm just the messenger. I don't do the tests. Probably this wav file is the conversion result (DBM to wav)
DBM file. See the previous bench (DigiRoller).

EDIT. I've just reread your post and see you know about it already

Last edited by mr2 on 02-Feb-2012 at 07:28 PM.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@wawa

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apparently, since the tests originate from a polish page "efika against the rest of the world". efika didnt have altivec, did it?


If results on that page are non-Altivec for Mac Mini and Pegasos II, I would like see also non-AltiVec result of the X1000 (for direct comparison).

Quote:
if you trust this page altivec speeds up about a factor 1,7-1,8.


With lame? Sorry, I don´t see this in the lame benchmark.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:28:15
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@mr2

yes i know but this just introduces another stage to the test. admittedly im too lazy to fire up an amiga or uae to do the thest just now, but on the other hand the more operations the easier a failure is introduced.

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sicky 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:28:42
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@-Sam-

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Are there any demos available? I don't have Pagestream or ArtEffect - I may have Photogencis somewhere but I will have to search. Most of my Amigs stuff is in storage.


I use Photogenics 5 here on my SAM460. There is a free demo version of ImageFX called 'ImageFX_Lite' from OS4 Depot. I also use Hollywood and Designer, do you have those?

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You have had OS4.1 for a while - what do you use as a mod player? Also - how stable is UAE on your 460?


Initially it was unstable, wouldn't boot every time, then I discovered the on-board battery was no good, fitted a new one and it's been very stable now, get the odd crash when running something new that is not known about full compatibility!

I only play MP3's and use either TuneNet or AmigaAMP3

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wawa 
Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
Posted on 2-Feb-2012 19:32:06
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@pavlor

mac mini 1,5 + lame without altivec ->33s
mac mini 1,5 + lame with altivec -> 17s
alright, its rather close to 2x, my bad.

edit: hold on there is still some confusion about that. os4 version seems not to have altivec support after all, and as i suspected. different wav files have apparently been used.

Last edited by wawa on 02-Feb-2012 at 07:36 PM.

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Re: X1000 - It's arrived...
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@wawa

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wawa wrote:
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over at aorg piru claims that the tests you are comparing to on the mac/mos side are once without altivec support. since you ensured that os4 version you tested on x1k are altivec enabled the result is invalid.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60604


As I said in that thread, according to the readme, the AmigaOS 4 port of lame lacks altivec support.

If the A1-X1000 test really used an altivec enabled version of lame, then could the person who created it please upload it to os4depot so that the rest of us can use it?

Hans

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